I hear you about the aging thing! 😉 In my neck of the woods, Larry, it is very difficult to find a hangar available. So, you go on a wait list and wait for years. That tells me that the monthly fee is below market. If they let it float with market demand, then many of the old-timers would be priced out and the wealthy would go to the front of the line. The "below market" pricing ranges from $ .45 to $ .96 per square foot per month for hangars here. (Shockingly, the Truckee-Tahoe airport just raised the price for a monthly tie down to $300 per month. There are other airports in my area with reasonably-priced tie downs in the $68-90 /mo range.)
So, although the resale value is an important variable in the decision of which airplane to build, what is even more important to me is the kind of plane that can withstand being stored outdoors or is easily trailerable with folding wings (like the Mustang II) or quickly-removed wings (like the RV-12). There is a lot to like about the KR/Freebird and the low cost is a big one. However, for it to work for my budget, I will need to figure out how to solve the foldable wings issue. It seems that something similar to the Mustang II folding wing solution ought to work. Any ideas on that? Here are some videos on Bill Scheltema's Mustang II folding wings solution: https://youtu.be/k6PbxqQXFP8?t=379 https://www.eaa.org/videos/1877503395 I bet there are a lot of other potential KR/Freebird builders out there with a similar situation to mine. If they could build an inexpensive high-performance airplane with foldable wings, they would save so much on the hangar cost that they would not be very concerned about the poor resale issue. And with the liberalizing of the LSA and Sport pilot rules with the anticipated MOSAIC proposed rule changes due out in a few weeks, there may be an even larger group of potential builders. On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 9:34 AM Flesner via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: > On 7/16/2023 10:35 AM, Steve Loebs via KRnet wrote: > > Were you able to get close to what you were asking for your KR2S? > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Each KR is different and value must be considered on a plane by plane > basis. Most older KR's are of the standard KR2 variety as well as many > of the projects for sale. These aircraft are a bit small for the > current version of pilots so their value is considered rather low if > sell-able at all. Even the "more modern" versions of the 2S seldom sell > at a price that reflects the performance they are capable of. One > example is Jeff Scott's KR that sold in the last year or two. I don't > recall his KR having a wider cockpit than some are building today but > even if you would consider it a very comfortable single place like I > considered 211LF it was equipped and performed well beyond the 19K > asking price. What other 150 mph cruise aircraft (at 5.5 gph) could > you buy with all the whistles and bells that Jeff's KR had for under 20K > in today's aircraft market. > > Based on 30+ years experience in the KR community, if you intend to > build a KR or some version of it, build it to fly and very probably sell > if for less than it cost to build if you ever try to sell it. That > however should not be a deal breaker if you hope to build a fast and > economical airplane and hope to enjoy flying it for many years. If I > had given away 211LF the 20 years and 800 flight hours of enjoyment were > well worth the price paid. > > If you're looking to build you can't get started too soon. Aging is not > a linear process................. > > Larry Flesner > > -- > KRnet mailing list > KRnet@list.krnet.org > https://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet >
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