Good day Colin.

Would you happen to have a couple close up pictures of the tail wheel on your 
KR-2 ?

Thanks 

Jamie :)

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> On Mar 2, 2023, at 3:13 PM, MS <propbala...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Having flown aft-cg most of the time in my bush work, especially in Africa, 
> I'm not as sensitive to the issue qs Colin.  It does make the elevator more 
> sensitive and the plane less "stable" which requires one to stay on top of 
> the elevator with more attention and to give a few extra knots to approach 
> and landing but aft-cg to start with empty is not something to build into the 
> basic structure.  You need to have an even starting point before loading it 
> with stuff.  
> 
> More important than the vert stab which is fine as per plans is the rudder, 
> which I've always found to also be fine as per plans.  A little more wouldn't 
> hurt but the standard has always been sufficient for stiff crosswinds.  I've 
> never found it to be lacking in authority for takeoff either.  It's strong 
> crosswinds that can be the problem although as I've mentioned, it's fine as 
> is.  Re takeoffs, Ken Rand was taking off at FlaBob in the early days and got 
> blown into the airport boundary fence on takeoff so perhaps he enlarged it in 
> further designs or perhaps he was just careless that day.  FlaBob gets strong 
> winds coming in from the desert and can be turbulent.  
> 
> Just noticed the subject of this post is "Horizontal stabilizer KR-2".  My 
> response has been as if the subject was "Vertical Stabilizer & Rudder".  
> Sorry.
> 
> Mike Stirewalt
> KSEE
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 06:12:56 PM PST, colin hales via KRnet 
> <krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jamie, 
> 
> With regards to solid proven advice, I can solidly say, I didn't extend the 
> fin forward. I don't have any stability issues so my advice is that there is 
> no need to extend the fin. But if you want to extend forward the fin an inch 
> or two, I can't see any harm. 
> 
> But I am blue in the face because I say this until I am blue in the face, 
> stability is all to do with centre of gravity. The standard KR2 might be 
> pitch sensitive to those who fly jumbo's but there are no yaw issues with the 
> plane. 
> 
> Far more of an issue is engine torque. Depending on how much power you will 
> have will depend on how much corrective rudder you need to counteract engine 
> torque, adding to the fin isn't going to help that one bit. Since there is no 
> offset built into the fin, as there is on many other aircraft, size is not 
> really an issue. 
> 
> For clarification, some aircraft have the fin offset to counteract 
> permanently engine torque, so you don't need a rudder trim tab or to keep so 
> much rudder in when taking off or climbing with full power. The KR2 fin is 
> set in line with the fuselage centre line for simplicity. Also, VW engines 
> you need to offset the fin to the right, Continetal or lycoming, off to the 
> left, because they rotate in opposite directions. So to save confusion, on 
> such a plane where engine choice is open, the fin is set down the middle with 
> no offset. 
> 
> I came across a Midget Mustang where the owner cursed it because he could 
> never keep it straight on take off. I was asked to look into it and quickly 
> discovered that the original builder of many previous owners had put the fin 
> offset bracket on the wrong way. Swapping it around made the pilot a lot 
> happier. 
> 
>  So my personal advice is to build it light and keep a forward C of G and 
> keep to the plans. One less issue for your inspector to study. Where I live, 
> that type of deviation from the plans would require lots of paperwork. 
> 
> I know this hasn't answered your question perfectly, but the advice is sound. 
>  
> 
> CH.
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