You folks can also fing lots of canopy latch systems in Tony Bingelis books.
-----------------------------------------From: "victor taylor via KRnet" To: "KRnet" Cc: "victor taylor" Sent: Tuesday January 24 2023 9:36:50PM Subject: Re: KRnet> Canopy Fix While I mostly agree with Mark and also feel the canopy should be hinged at the front: if you have one already hinged at the side there may be hope and a safer method. I just build a Drongonfly canopy latch that is virtually identical to the Long EZ latch for N47MG. I have a lot of time in Long EZ’s and haven’t ever heard of a canopy opening in flight on one that was latched. There is a safety catch just in case it does come open. If you are still building then for sure go with the forward hinge but if you already have a flying airplane and don’t like what you have look at the Long EZ / Dragonfly type latch. Victor Taylor Irvington, AL > On Jan 24, 2023, at 9:02 PM, Mark Langford wrote: > > > On 1/24/2023 7:34 PM, John Gotschall via KRnet wrote: > > Is there a vacuum above a kr canopy in flight that makes it pop up? > ----------------------- > > I've talked to two KR pilots in the last few days who both said they'd forgotten to latch the canopy and it only opened a few inches in flight. This is with a forward hinged canopy, so yes there's down pressure on the front, but the lift at the rear is stronger, at least that's been my experience. I've forgotten to latch one side of the canopy on two different KRs, and the unlatched side rises a couple of inches, and other side stays put. This happens on takeoff, so the speeds are low, and I'm sure it gets worse with more speed. Problem is, the force is so high that I couldn't pull it shut to latch it, so I did one circuit at super slow speed and landed to latch it. > > Joe Horton told me last night that he has deliberately opened his canopy in flight (also probably at low speed) when a blown oil seal blew so much smoke into the cockpit he couldn't see where he was going, and again, it only rises a few inches. > > A side hinged canopy WILL blow off, even on the ground. The first time I started N891JF without adult supervision, the canopy (which was shut but not latches) opened so quickly that it broke the limiting strap. was lucky to catch the cross-brace in time to keep it from being ripped off the plane, and that was just on startup, not on run-up! I had to fly it home from Omaha with a C-clamp on that side. That's what happened to John Schaffer (if I remember correctly), but I'm not sure why the canopy departed in the first place, as it was latched and he was flying at 8000' or so, is my recollection. Maybe he'll chime in on that. > > I do recall that Alan Buzza at Perth had his side-hinged canopy open ion takeoff (don't know if it was unlatched or not) and that it immediately killed the lift on one side and he crashed near the end of the runway. > > Moral of these stories is don't fly a side-hinged canopy. Directions on how to fix that are at > > http://www.n56ml.com/n891jf/canopyhinge/ /> > > Don't worry....you don't need a lathe to build your hinge points. I've got a lot of hours this thing, so it works. I recently hit 200 mph in it (in a three second dive) and wasn't worried about the canopy at all. > > Mark Langford > m...@n56ml.com > http://www.n56ml.com [1] > Huntsville, AL > > -- > KRnet mailing list > KRnet@list.krnet.org > https://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet /> -- KRnet mailing list KRnet@list.krnet.org https://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet /> Links: ------ [1] http://www.n56ml.com
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