AGM batteries seem to be about the same cold cranking amps as comparable 
lead/acid batteries.  It's the Lithium Iron batteries that can really deliver 
the amperage.

-Jeff


> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2022 at 10:10 PM
> From: "Daniel Branstrom via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org>
> To: "Jeff Scott via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org>
> Cc: "Daniel Branstrom" <4dan.branst...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: KRnet> batteries
>
> Thanks, Jeff. You put things in perspective and in order.
> 
> Is it true that, because of their internal construction, AGM batteries 
> have lower internal resistance, and that enables them to deliver the 
> higher amperage for cranking power than other types of lead-acid 
> batteries? It's been a long while since I read up on them.
> 
> Dan Branstrom
> 
> On 7/2/2022 8:01 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote:
> > I'm seeing a lot of misinformation about batteries being bandied about.  
> > There are three types of batteries.  All have their good and bad points and 
> > any of the three types can be used with any type of engine.
> >
> > The most common is the old lead acid batteries.  Of course they require a 
> > vented battery box and sometimes will spill acid, even if they are the 
> > sealed recombinant batteries. They also must be mounted with the terminals 
> > up to avoid spillage.
> >
> > The most popular now for a similar price is the AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) 
> > type batteries.  The most popular of these is the Odyssey battery, 
> > specifically the PC-680.  They deliver good cranking power similar to the 
> > lead acid batteries and have as good or better life for a similar weight 
> > and price.  Additionally, they can be mounted in any position with now 
> > danger of acid spillage.  My experience has been that I typically get 7+ 
> > years of service from these batteries.
> >
> > The less popular, mainly due to price is the EarthX Lithium Iron batteries. 
> >  Note that these are Lithium Iron, not Lithium Ion.  They are not the 
> > highly flammable mess the Lithium Ion batteries are, but I see that 
> > incorrectly stated over and over as a criticism.  It just ain't so.  The 
> > EsrthX Aviation batteries have a redundant battery cell management systems 
> > on board now with a warning light to let you know the primary system has 
> > failed and that the battery is now operating on the backup system.  They 
> > also have a wire that can be hooked ot a warning light on your panel or 
> > your electronic display to notify you to check the battery.  However, in 
> > the case of a charging system runaway, the battery management system will 
> > disconnect the cells, so using this type of battery alone in a plane with 
> > an ignition system that requires a battery may not be the best idea. These 
> > batteries are also very expensive with starting costs close to $400 per 
> > battery.  The big selling point is that this b
 at
>  te
> >   ry weighs 4# as compared to 14# or more for your typical lead acid or AGM 
> > battery, and provides almost twice the cranking power as the Odyssey 
> > battery.  Additionally, this battery can also be mounted in any position.
> >
> > I have used all of these types of batteries in my planes.  The EarthX was a 
> > necessity for the raw amperage available when I had a plane with Emags to 
> > provide sufficient power for the Emags to fire while cranking on the high 
> > torque starter.  But my choice for most applications seems to be the 
> > Odyssey battery as I currently have all three of my planes equipped with 
> > Odyssey PC-680 batteries.
> >
> > -Jeff Scott
> > Arkansas Ozarks
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