Hello Ken,

Please cancel that request. We heard from Steve Glover and he is still in 
business so we will not be replicating the gear now. We are considering a 
standard Q2 gear that can be cut to length. 

Victor


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>   1.  long ez weight and balance (Flesner)
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>   3. Re:  Wing gap covers (Flesner)
>   4. Re:  Building Question (Mark Langford)
>   5. Re:  Cook-Out camp out (Luis Claudio)
>   6.  weight and balance on a longeze (Flesner)
>   7. Re:  weight and balance on a longeze (Luis Claudio)
>   8.  New Guy (Anthony Steinke)
>   9.  Source for Nose Gear (Ken Henderson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 12:11:59 -0500
> From: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com>
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> long ez weight and balance
> Message-ID: <8bc5539a-feaa-b5e6-5234-aeda6d58b...@frontier.com>
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> 
> I will be helping a Long EZ owner perform weight and balance in a couple 
> of hours.? Can anyone point me to a web page that gives me the "level" 
> point and datum for a Long EZ?? I will need it by 1:00Pm central time 
> usa.? I have the form to calculate but it doesn't give the level point 
> or datum to calculate.
> 
> Thanks......
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 10:52:52 -0700
> From: <laser...@juno.com>
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Wing gap covers
> Message-ID: <aabru5fkuatsm...@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>
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> 
> Bob Goodnight asked, 
> 
>> "What is used to cover the gap in the wings when bolted on?"
> 
> Ken Cottle came up with a solution which has survived well for thirty
> years plus.  I don't know just where he got them, but he installed
> brackets underneath both wings which can be tightened or loosened and
> have a slot which holds one end of a long, skinny fiberglass 3-inch wide
> strip that covers the gap top and bottom.  The strip is anchored with a
> metal curve which fits the trailing edge and anchored on the other end by
> the aforementioned bracket.  If you'll look at the pictures at this link 
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/y6g6a9yw
> 
> you can get some idea of what I'm describing.  I ought to do some better
> photos of these strips and the adjustable mechanism that allows them to
> be secured in place.  I once asked Ken where he got those adjustable
> mechanisms you see in the picture and seems to me he didn't remember, but
> I can ask again.  I'll also take some more explicit photos next time I'm
> at the hangar.  
> 
> Mike
> KSEE
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:24:14 -0500
> From: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com>
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> Wing gap covers
> Message-ID: <6844fcc9-5c6e-d5df-a4d3-4eee08dbe...@frontier.com>
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>> On 8/7/2020 12:52 PM, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet wrote:
>> Ken Cottle came up with a solution which has survived well for thirty
>> years plus.  I don't know just where he got them, but he installed
>> brackets underneath both wings which can be tightened or loosened and
>> have a slot which holds one end of a long, skinny fiberglass 3-inch wide
>> strip that covers the gap top and bottom.
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
> A couple of small screws is sufficient to hold cover strips in place. 
> (700+ hours and counting)? I screwed them directly in to the wing skin, 
> two at the trail edge and two midpoint.? Don't over tighten and strip 
> out the hole or you will have to install a larger screw.
> 
> As always, YRMV............
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 14:18:16 -0500
> From: Mark Langford <m...@n56ml.com>
> To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org>
> Subject: Re: KR> Building Question
> Message-ID: <bb6de8fb-9dea-de73-8c32-e5a75c381...@n56ml.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Rob wrote:
> 
>> You could fly a KR without a covering for the gaps if you like as well.
> 
> You could, but I don't recommend it!  Climb speed drops quite a bit, and 
> I would guess that stall speed does as well.  Been there, done that. 
> What will really blow your mind is to fly with only one gap seal 
> installed (hey, I'm an experimenter)....the plane will have a very real 
> and astounding tendency to corkscrew through the air, as one wing is 
> provide normal lift, and the other isn't.  It's dramatic enough to tell 
> me that lift is seriously compromised without gap seals installed, 
> counter to what I'd have thought.
> 
> Another option that works OK is to simply foam and glass the whole wing 
> and then cut the outer wing off from the stub wing, on the outboard side 
> of the gap, dodging the WAFs.  I did the "retrofit" version of this on 
> N56ML at the 900 hour mark, using allen head cap head screws and captive 
> nuts on the wing attach fittings, with tiny access holes the diameter of 
> the allen bit to install the WAFs  See http://www.n56ml.com/900hour/ for 
> more on that.  I should say that "your mileage may vary".....and don't 
> try this if you don't have a degree in mechanical engineering, and a lot 
> of confidence in your material choices....
> 
> Mark Langford
> m...@n56ml.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
> Huntsville, AL
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:02:40 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Luis Claudio <dallasbori...@yahoo.com>
> To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org>
> Subject: Re: KR> Cook-Out camp out
> Message-ID: <1250837146.1119175.1596830560...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> I will probably fly with my friend in his RV10 to this meet since my KR too 
> is not ready. The RV10 is a pretty awesome airplane and will be lots of fun 
> for our KR group to see.?Love the idea. BTW... at least one seat is available 
> on the RV from Dallas. Let me know if you are interested in flying along...
> Luis R Claudio
>    On Friday, August 7, 2020, 10:03:36 AM CDT, 14084terry via KRnet 
> <krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:  
> 
> Yeah everybody's invited I have some stol planes friends down too I'll have 
> my KR hear and Rob Schmitt and Jeff Scott usually makes it down toSent from 
> my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: "Dr. Feng Hsu" <fenghs...@gmail.com> 
> Date: 8/7/20? 9:48 AM? (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> Cc: terry 
> chizek <14084te...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: KR> Cook-Out camp out Hi 
> Terry,Glad to see there are brave enough KRers like you who dares to 
> "experimental" some social gathering, instead of distancing ourselves from 
> one another during this difficult times...!!My question is, will I and 
> friends be allowed to join the cookout party if we decide to come to Kansas 
> by flying anything other than KRs, such as a Piper Cherokee or even driving 
> down there on the ground? This is because my KR has not quite been finished 
> yet, and in fact the more I worked on the project, the further away I feel 
> from the days of her first lift-up from the ground, so I would very much like 
> to join the gang on the cookout event in order to talk and learn from real KR 
> gurus face to face! I would assume that no masks are?required for the event, 
> correct?!Stay safe & fly high!Dr. HsuOn Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 7:40 AM terry 
> chizek via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:Having my cookout August 29th 
> at Marion Kansas airport 43 kilo will be
> providing snacks and drinks from noon tell late evening Terry chizek
> 620-381-1347
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:17:32 -0500
> From: Flesner <fles...@frontier.com>
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> weight and balance on a longeze
> Message-ID: <051061fa-bede-b62c-2211-249a2cc7b...@frontier.com>
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> 
> I helped a friend do the weight and balance on his Longeze this 
> afternoon.? What a goat rodeo. The nose won't stay down in level 
> attitude without a gallon jug of water on the nose.? They don't give you 
> a datum other than to check that the instrument panel is 110 inches 
> forward of the main gear axles then add 40 inches.? If that is not the 
> case you adjust the numbers so they will match the factory chart with 
> C.G. numbers.? Someone was smoking something to come up with that gem.? 
> I think we got it worked out.? If not it will probably fly as it has 
> 600+ hours on the air frame.?? He purchased it and then made a lot of 
> repairs / upgrades.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 01:47:25 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Luis Claudio <dallasbori...@yahoo.com>
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> weight and balance on a longeze
> Message-ID: <1237524423.1209958.1596851245...@mail.yahoo.com>
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> We have a few Longeze here in our airfield but one, in particular, that is 
> just now finishing up their 40hrs. It has a Lyc 320 on it. If this matches 
> somewhat what you have I will get their weight and balance and copy it.?
> Luis R Claudio, KHQZ KR2S N8981S Dallas, Texas
>    On Friday, August 7, 2020, 08:17:28 PM CDT, Flesner via KRnet 
> <krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:  
> 
> 
> I helped a friend do the weight and balance on his Longeze this 
> afternoon.? What a goat rodeo. The nose won't stay down in level 
> attitude without a gallon jug of water on the nose.? They don't give you 
> a datum other than to check that the instrument panel is 110 inches 
> forward of the main gear axles then add 40 inches.? If that is not the 
> case you adjust the numbers so they will match the factory chart with 
> C.G. numbers.? Someone was smoking something to come up with that gem.? 
> I think we got it worked out.? If not it will probably fly as it has 
> 600+ hours on the air frame.?? He purchased it and then made a lot of 
> repairs / upgrades.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 04:00:06 +0000
> From: Anthony Steinke <asteink...@gmail.com>
> To: "krnet@list.krnet.org" <krnet@list.krnet.org>
> Subject: KR> New Guy
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> Hello everyone!
> 
> My name is Anthony Steinke and I currently live in Grand Forks (KGFK), ND. I 
> plan on buying a airplane come spring/summer 2021 and am very interested in 
> the KR2/S because of my budget and the safety record they seem to have. I'm 
> looking for a plane I can maintain myself and that is cost effective to fly 
> for having fun and building hours. I'm hear to learn all I can and would love 
> to see one of these planes in person. Is there anyone in the Minnesota and 
> Dakotas area that would be willing to give me a tour of their plane. I'm 
> willing to drive. Thanks much!
> 
> Anthony
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 08:43:09 -0600
> From: Ken Henderson <dckenhender...@gmail.com>
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Source for Nose Gear
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> 
> Many thanks for the interest in my nose gear for sale. I will be answering
> all of you hopefully today. The response made me wish I had more than 1 to
> sell but that is the purpose of this post.
> Mark Langford contacted me to see if I would be willing to send my Diehl
> gear to Velocity so they could take measurements and explore the
> possibilities of re-manufacturing the gear. I am in the process of boxing
> and shipping the gear to them.
> I do not think the whole process will take too long and when my gear is
> returned to me it will be sold to one of you that contacted me if you are
> still interested.
> Thanks for your patience and I hope the effort leaves us with a way out of
> the current situation of having no source for the gear.
> Ken
> 
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