Tim,
Welcome aboard. You'll have to make contact with the KR crowd at
Oshkosh next year and the KR Gathering at Mt.Vernon, Illinois next
year. Good luck on your project.
Larry Flesner
KR2 211LF
Thanks Larry, I will definately be at both events, and am looking forward to
meeting you and other Netters in person.
Cheers!
Tim Hoversten
Oshkosh, WI
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everyone who can help you - and follow your dreams. Life is easy. So keep
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Today's Topics:
1. Herbert Fuerle's KR-2 (laser...@juno.com)
2. New KR-1 Builder Checking In (Tim Hoversten)
3. Roy Marsh (laser...@juno.com)
4. Re: New KR-1 Builder Checking In (Chris Kinnaman)
5. Re: New KR-1 Builder Checking In (Flesner)
> "I've now turned 70 years old, and realize that I'll never fly this
plane."
Uh oh . . . .
I just turned 72 and I've been wondering why I haven't been flying very
much. Something mysterious must happen right around age 70. I'm really
worried.
I'm going to talk to Sparky about this. He'll know. When he's not
working on his Pietenpol he's out flying his KR so if anyone knows what
happens to us around age 70 it'll be him. Sparky just turned 86.
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Stephen in Paradise said,
> "I have no idea what transport costs would be but "if you think the
asking price is a little too high" remember we are talking about a nearly
complete airplane. I am not looking forward to totaling all my receipts
but I can guarantee you I am way north of 16K."
I sure don't think 16K is too high. It looks to me like a contender for
Bargain of the Century at 16K. The 912 S is easily worth half the price
being asked, all by itself. The care that was taken with construction
radiates from every picture - what a magnificent example of a KR!
****************************************
Having said that . . . I notice that the tubing used on the rudder pedals
_might_ be the inadequate tubing called for in the plans. Several KR
people have had problems ranging from the minor to the disastrous
following failure of that tubing. Discussions covering this subject are
in the archives.
Also . . . the weight seems to be very forward. The distance from the
rear of the engine to the firewall seems like a country mile compared to
mine - mine being so close that the engine needs to be pulled forward
just to get to the magnetos.
That Porsche engine sure looks interesting eh?
Also . . . something I've wondered about many times . . . why do builders
not build a baggage compartment behind the seats? If the seatbacks fold
forward, they give access to a compartment below the hat shelf and behind
the seats. With my compartment, from the seatback hinge to the back of
the compartment is about three feet. With this German KR as with many
others (probably _most_ others I'd guess), the space behind the seat is
unusable. With a fixed seat back, access could be by using a removable
or hinged hatshelf. It's really strange, thinking about it just now,
that this space behind the seat is wasted with so many KR's.
So . . . what I'm seeing with Mr. Fuerle's aircraft is poor utilization
of available cargo space, both between engine and firewall and behind the
seats. As the plane sits however, modifications to create cargo areas
would be easy.
Interesting that Roy Marsh inspired the building of this aircraft. As of
2010 Roy Marsh was still prowling around the hangars and EAA meetings
there in Santa Maria, CA. If I discover that he's still around I'll see
if I can get an email address for him and post it.
Mike
KSEE
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After Weeks Of Rumors, Joanna Gaines Comes Clean
trecommanews.com
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/59fcad4dba2f62d4d6844st04vuc
Well folks, after many years of dreaming and planning, I am finally working on
my KR-1!
I picked up a project from Portage, WI, and hauled it back here to OSH, where
I live and work at EAA. It is currently sitting in my garage on the retract
gear, with a HAPI conversion installed, and the foam and fiberglass had been
started, but was not acceptable. I have spent the past 2 weeks removing all the
foam and glass from the structure, so basically it is now in the boat stage
with center section. I also have the outer spars and aileron wood strips and
hinges, and most of the metal parts and pieces too, so it is a good start.
The previous builder had obviously seen Ron Scott's "Ol' Ironsides" airplane
which was based here in WI, or read the articles about it in Sport Aviation,
because it has fiberglass sheet for the sides and bottom instead of aircraft
plywood. EAA now has "Ol' Ironsides" in storage so I was able to look it over,
and it is the same construction exactly. I am just going to leave it, rather
than try to remove the fiberglass sheet down to the wood structure, which would
probably damage it beyond repair if I tried to remove it anyway.
I purchased a set of plans from Jeanette Rand back in 2009, so these might be
the last KR-1 plans that she personally sold. I will use the new airfoil, and
am pretty sure I will convert it to fixed gear. Any KR-1 flyers that have
actually used the retract gear and like it? I have read all the posts about it,
so if I do keep them I will change the latching system in some fashion.
My goal is to have the lightest KR-1 possible, using Ken Rand's original 310 lb
empty weight as my target. No starter, bare minimum equipment (have nav/strobes
though) and probably MGL instruments with a tablet and Icom A24 handheld radio.
Any advice, comments, and especially real-world experiences welcome!
Tim Hoversten
I just spoke with John Ready, President of EAA Chapter 499 there in Santa
Maria. I called this morning on a whim just to see if I could get an
update on Roy Marsh and ended up talking foir an hour or more to John who
was one of Roy's closest friends.
Roy, as any of us might have guessed, passed away about four years ago in
his early 90's. Pancreatic cancer got him but at that age I suppose it
could be anything.
John was interested to learn that Roy's KR-2S wound up in Australia.
Mike
KSEE
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We Say Good Bye To Joanna And Chip
trecommanews.com
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/59fcc21bf28d0421b2856st02vuc
Hi Tim,
The fiberglass sheet in place of the plywood shoud be fine. I did some
test panels comparing .047 E-glass sheet with 3/32" plywood over a
typical truss structure and the glass was comparable in shear but peeled
more easily. If the glass was sanded dull where it was epoxied to the
truss it was almost as good in peel as the plywood. If yours does not
peel easily, you're probably good.
A number of airplanes have been built this way. Search the Sport
Aviation archives for Ken Champion's Jupiter J-1, probably late
50s-early 60s. He built his wings with fiberglass sheet over wood ribs.
Chris
On 11/3/2017 1:22 PM, Tim Hoversten via KRnet wrote:
> The previous builder had obviously seen Ron Scott's "Ol' Ironsides" airplane
> which was based here in WI, or read the articles about it in Sport Aviation,
> because it has fiberglass sheet for the sides and bottom instead of aircraft
> plywood.
On 11/3/2017 2:22 PM, Tim Hoversten via KRnet wrote:
> Well folks, after many years of dreaming and planning, I am finally working
> on my KR-1!
> I picked up a project from Portage, WI, and hauled it back here to OSH,
>where I live and work at EAA.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tim,
Welcome aboard. You'll have to make contact with the KR crowd at
Oshkosh next year and the KR Gathering at Mt.Vernon, Illinois next
year. Good luck on your project.
Larry Flesner
KR2 211LF
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