The volume of fluid required to be moved is dependent on the facial area of
the slave cylinder and the distance it must move to place the pad on the
brake disk. It's got nothing to do with the diameter of the line.

Also if you apply 10 pounds of weight to a plate that is 10 square inches in
size your pressure applied is 1 pound per square inch of plate. If you apply
it to a plate that is 100 square inches then it is only 0.1psi. Consequently
the pressure on a small diameter tube per unit of pipe wall area is greater
than it would be in a larger pipe although it is still spread evenly in both
cases according to physical laws for incompressible fluids.

Small pipes also experience a proportionately greater loss in pressure over
distance due to frictional effects and you have to push harder to move the
same volume of fluid in the same period of time. It is the need to move a
certain volume, as determined by the first paragraph above, in a defined
time that dictates the pipe diameter.

The change in volume due to a large diameter tube flexing out under pressure
is not necessarily any greater in proportion to the total volume of the pipe
than it is in a smaller pipe thus size is not necessarily an indicator of
braking efficiency.  To take it to the extreme an infinitely small pipe
would prevent any transmission of force irrespective of how strong or stiff
its walls were.





John Martindale
29 Jane Circuit
Toormina NSW 2452
Australia

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-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Nerobro
Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:36 AM
To: Craig Williams; KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> What material for lines from the toe brake masters to
thebrake?

The volume of fluid doesn't really matter much.  The fluid, for all
intents and purposes, is incompressible.   However the diameter of the
line, that makes a huge difference.  For a given wall thickness, if
you halve the size of the tubing, you're going to end up tubing that's
several times more resistant to pressure.  (I can't be bothered to do
the exact math right now)  But the stiffer brakes (read improved
braking) comes from the stiffer (to pressure) tubing.



On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Craig Williams <kr2seaf...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Yes, small line = less volume of fluid to move.  I have heard of several
instances of people moving to the 1/8" line and getting much improved
braking.  I too will use 1?8" plastic with my Tracy O'brien brakes.
>
> Craig
> www.kr2seafury.com
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Dan Heath <da...@windstream.net>
> To: 'Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft' <corvaircr...@mylist.net>;
'KRnet' <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:29 AM
> Subject: KR> What material for lines from the toe brake masters to the
brake?
>
> Joe,
>
> I have Matco brakes and master cylinders.  I use 1/8" plastic line that I
> got from Matco, for the entire installation.  My plane is fast and I have
to
> brake hard often.  This is a replacement installation, so I got lucky.
The
> old installation used 1/4" line, and I was able to feed the new line all
the
> way from the Master to the Slave.  This can come in real handy if the line
> ever needs to be replaced.  So, this is a hint to install the 1/4" line
> first as a conduit for the 1/8" line, if you decide that is the route you
> want to take.
>
> Another interesting thing is that with the old type installation, which I
> had on this KR and my first KR, I could not hold the plane during run-up.
> Now that is not a problem.  I think the 1/8" line does not expand like the
> 1/4" did.
>
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
> See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN ? 40th
> Anniversary
> There is a time for building and it is over.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> http://www.krbuilder.org/MyUSA/
>
>
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