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> 1. Aileron cable rigging... (Oscar Zuniga)<br>
> 2. Re: Kr-2s Lsa? (Jim Kendrick)<br>
> 3. Re: Aileron cable rigging... (Larry&Sallie Flesner)<br>
> 4. Pics of my kr2-s "The Mistress" (warrong2)<br>
> 5. Re: Kr-2s Lsa? (Nerobro)<br>
> 6. Re: Kr-2s Lsa? (jon kimmel)<br>
> 7. Re: Kr-2s Lsa? (Jeff Scott)<br>
> 8. Upsize? (Bob White)<br>
> 9. Re: Upsize? (Lynn)<br>
> 10. Re: Upsize? (Virgil N. Salisbury)<br>
> 11. RE: Upsize? (Dene Collett)<br>
> 12. Removing paint from fibreglass u/c legs ... (Martin
> Pearce)<br>
> 13. Re: Removing paint from fibreglass u/c legs ... (Dave
> Acklam)<br>
> 14. Re: Upsize? (Dave_A)<br>
> 15. Re: Kr-2s Lsa? (Dave_A)<br>
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> Message: 1<br>
> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 21:58:28 -0700<br>
> From: Oscar Zuniga<taildr...@hotmail.com><br>
> Subject: KR> Aileron cable rigging...<br>
> To:<kr...@mylist.net><br>
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> Disclaimer: my Air Camper is wood frame with fabric covering and cruise speed
> is 70MPH. That said, I can second what Mark L. wrote about rigging the
> ailerons with the trailing edge just a smidge low on both sides. My
> control cables aren't twangy tight but even if they were, the rigging trick
> would be worthwhile. The trailing edges of my ailerons ride about 3/16"
> low on the ground but quickly come up flush with the TE of the wing in cruise
> flight. Looks funny on the ground and your DAR or Tech Counselor will
> probably question it upon inspection, but once you get in the air and in
> level cruise, look out both sides and the TE of the ailerons will be nice and
> tight with the TE of the wings.<br>
> <br>
> What Mark said.<br>
> <br>
> Oscar Zuniga<br>
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"<br>
> Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"<br>
> Medford, OR<br>
> <br>
> website at<a
> href="http://www.flysquirrel.net";>http://www.flysquirrel.net</a><br>
> <br>
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> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 2<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 06:45:41 -0400<br>
> From: Jim Kendrick<jim.kendrick1...@gmail.com><br>
> Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
> To: KRnet<kr...@mylist.net><br>
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> Tom,<br>
> <br>
> You pose some interesting points and would like to hear some others to see<br>
> if there is an interest for us old coots too .... But maybe its time for a<br>
> KR3 ?<br>
> <br>
> Jim Kendrick<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Tom<thomas.garne...@comcast.net> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Jim Kendrick asked about a super Kr2 becoming an LSA? I have asked
>> the<br>
>> same question Jim. Having been retired for more than a decade from a
>> 45<br>
>> year wonderful career in Architecture, I certainly am not qualified to<br>
>> design the main wing spar for a longer span for the outer wing panel for<br>
>> the Kr. At one time, Rand designed outer wing panels for the Kr-1 to
>> make<br>
>> it into a glider, but I never saw or understood what kind of loads it
>> would<br>
>> carry. In looking at some of the newest LSA designs for sale in
>> Sport<br>
>> aviation, they have wing spans of around thirty feet for the thirteen<br>
>> hundred gross weight. I have not seen what airfoils these designs use,
>> but<br>
>> there are several in EAA books that would certainly could be used to Slow<br>
>> it down, Match the required stall at gross, etc. We old coots that
>> could<br>
>> fly LSA, might be able to get back into the air? I said it before,
>> some of<br>
>> you young engineer types come up with wing designs and plans, we will buy<br>
>> them. These airplanes all have hershy bar wings.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> on a different thought about Kr-2 pitch sensitive control, there is
>> an<br>
>> article in January 1988 Sport aviation, that is worth reading before the<br>
>> first flight of a new Kr-2. EAA Members can access past articles on
>> the<br>
>> internet, if you can remember all the pass words. Two things that
>> stood<br>
>> out for me as note worthy are, tail wheel training is necessary, and the<br>
>> top of control stick only moves at a one half inch radius circle!<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Tom Garner in Nashville<br>
>> <br>
>> EAA 90944<br>
>> _______________________________________<br>
>> Search the KRnet Archives at<a
>> href="http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search";>http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search</a>.<br>
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>> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 3<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:35:45 -0500<br>
> From: Larry&Sallie Flesner<fles...@frontier.com><br>
> Subject: Re: KR> Aileron cable rigging...<br>
> To: KRnet<kr...@mylist.net><br>
> Message-ID:<2c771f$8fq...@out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><br>
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> <br>
> At 11:58 PM 5/28/2012, you wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> Disclaimer: my Air Camper is wood frame with fabric covering and<br>
>> cruise speed is 70MPH. That said, I can second what Mark L. wrote<br>
>> about rigging the ailerons with the trailing edge just a smidge low<br>
>> on both sides.<br>
>> Oscar Zuniga<br>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>
> <br>
> Mine are rigged flush and stay flush in flight. Wonder what the deal
> is?<br>
> <br>
> Tip: When you cut the aileron out of the finished wing and install<br>
> the aileron spar, don't forget to put the twist in the aileron to<br>
> match the wing. Duhaaaa...........<br>
> <br>
> Larry Flesner<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 4<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 05:37:54 -0700 (PDT)<br>
> From: warrong2<warro...@bellsouth.net><br>
> Subject: KR> Pics of my kr2-s "The Mistress"<br>
> To: kr...@mylist.net<br>
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> <br>
> I JUST ADDED some pics of my Kr2-s That I started in 94' first with the
> plans<br>
> then after contemplating for almost one year, "One the hell did I do?" I
> started<br>
> to build it slowly' Most of the pics are recent about 2 years worth but you
> get<br>
> the idea of what can be accomplished over time, lots and lots and lots of
> time.<br>
> Notice tyhe fairings on the empenage and wing leading edge also the dune
> buggy<br>
> gloass seats I modified. Some of the pics are when I just looked at it and<br>
> contemplated my next moves.<br>
> <br>
> <a
> href="http://s1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/warronflys/";>http://s1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/warronflys/</a><br>
> <br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 5<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 08:36:54 -0500<br>
> From: Nerobro<nero...@gmail.com><br>
> Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
> To: KRnet<kr...@mylist.net><br>
> Message-ID:<br>
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> <br>
> The KR3 already happened. And it didn't end well. :-) going
> to LSA specs<br>
> would be an interesting exercise. I wonder what a LSA wing would
> look<br>
> like. People would need to be a lot more careful about airframe
> weight.<br>
> On May 29, 2012 5:45 AM, "Jim Kendrick"<jim.kendrick1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> Tom,<br>
>> <br>
>> You pose some interesting points and would like to hear some others to
>> see<br>
>> if there is an interest for us old coots too .... But maybe its time for
>> a<br>
>> KR3 ?<br>
>> <br>
>> Jim Kendrick<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Tom<thomas.garne...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> Jim Kendrick asked about a super Kr2 becoming an LSA? I have asked
>>> the<br>
>>> same question Jim. Having been retired for more than a decade from a
>>> 45<br>
>>> year wonderful career in Architecture, I certainly am not qualified to<br>
>>> design the main wing spar for a longer span for the outer wing panel for<br>
>>> the Kr. At one time, Rand designed outer wing panels for the Kr-1
>>> to<br>
>> make<br>
>>> it into a glider, but I never saw or understood what kind of loads it<br>
>> would<br>
>>> carry. In looking at some of the newest LSA designs for sale in
>>> Sport<br>
>>> aviation, they have wing spans of around thirty feet for the thirteen<br>
>>> hundred gross weight. I have not seen what airfoils these designs
>>> use,<br>
>> but<br>
>>> there are several in EAA books that would certainly could be used to
>>> Slow<br>
>>> it down, Match the required stall at gross, etc. We old coots that
>>> could<br>
>>> fly LSA, might be able to get back into the air? I said it before,
>>> some<br>
>> of<br>
>>> you young engineer types come up with wing designs and plans, we will
>>> buy<br>
>>> them. These airplanes all have hershy bar wings.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> on a different thought about Kr-2 pitch sensitive control, there is
>>> an<br>
>>> article in January 1988 Sport aviation, that is worth reading before the<br>
>>> first flight of a new Kr-2. EAA Members can access past articles on
>>> the<br>
>>> internet, if you can remember all the pass words. Two things that
>>> stood<br>
>>> out for me as note worthy are, tail wheel training is necessary, and the<br>
>>> top of control stick only moves at a one half inch radius circle!<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> Tom Garner in Nashville<br>
>>> <br>
>>> EAA 90944<br>
>>> _______________________________________<br>
>>> Search the KRnet Archives at<a
>>> href="http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search";>http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search</a>.<br>
>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net<br>
>>> please see other KRnet info at<a
>>> href="http://www.krnet.org/info.html";>http://www.krnet.org/info.html</a><br>
>>> <br>
>> _______________________________________<br>
>> Search the KRnet Archives at<a
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>> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 6<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:54:24 -0500<br>
> From: jon kimmel<jkimme...@gmail.com><br>
> Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
> To: KRnet<kr...@mylist.net><br>
> Message-ID:<br>
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> <br>
> My wing is going to have a higher aspect ratio than most...with a 25 foot<br>
> span. The spar chords have been beefed up significantly so it will
> be<br>
> heavier...I didn't design it but I checked it and the logic is sound.
> It<br>
> could handle the standard kr2 extensions to make it longer than 25 feet,<br>
> but then I would be concerned about where the WAFs mount to the wing.
> I<br>
> think the toughest part of an lsa would be getting the weight down.
> Also,<br>
> when I talked to the faa guy he said that a lsa has to be 100% built per<br>
> plans at signoff...it seems like the KR community might have a tough time<br>
> conforming to that standard.<br>
> On May 29, 2012 8:37 AM, "Nerobro"<nero...@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> The KR3 already happened. And it didn't end well. :-)
>> going to LSA specs<br>
>> would be an interesting exercise. I wonder what a LSA wing would
>> look<br>
>> like. People would need to be a lot more careful about airframe
>> weight.<br>
>> On May 29, 2012 5:45 AM, "Jim Kendrick"<jim.kendrick1...@gmail.com><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>> Tom,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> You pose some interesting points and would like to hear some others to<br>
>> see<br>
>>> if there is an interest for us old coots too .... But maybe its time for<br>
>> a<br>
>>> KR3 ?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Jim Kendrick<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Tom<thomas.garne...@comcast.net><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Jim Kendrick asked about a super Kr2 becoming an LSA? I have asked
>>>> the<br>
>>>> same question Jim. Having been retired for more than a decade from
>>>> a<br>
>> 45<br>
>>>> year wonderful career in Architecture, I certainly am not qualified to<br>
>>>> design the main wing spar for a longer span for the outer wing panel<br>
>> for<br>
>>>> the Kr. At one time, Rand designed outer wing panels for the Kr-1
>>>> to<br>
>>> make<br>
>>>> it into a glider, but I never saw or understood what kind of loads it<br>
>>> would<br>
>>>> carry. In looking at some of the newest LSA designs for sale in
>>>> Sport<br>
>>>> aviation, they have wing spans of around thirty feet for the thirteen<br>
>>>> hundred gross weight. I have not seen what airfoils these designs
>>>> use,<br>
>>> but<br>
>>>> there are several in EAA books that would certainly could be used to<br>
>> Slow<br>
>>>> it down, Match the required stall at gross, etc. We old coots
>>>> that<br>
>> could<br>
>>>> fly LSA, might be able to get back into the air? I said it
>>>> before,<br>
>> some<br>
>>> of<br>
>>>> you young engineer types come up with wing designs and plans, we will<br>
>> buy<br>
>>>> them. These airplanes all have hershy bar wings.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> on a different thought about Kr-2 pitch sensitive control, there is
>>>> an<br>
>>>> article in January 1988 Sport aviation, that is worth reading before<br>
>> the<br>
>>>> first flight of a new Kr-2. EAA Members can access past articles
>>>> on<br>
>> the<br>
>>>> internet, if you can remember all the pass words. Two things that<br>
>> stood<br>
>>>> out for me as note worthy are, tail wheel training is necessary, and<br>
>> the<br>
>>>> top of control stick only moves at a one half inch radius circle!<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Tom Garner in Nashville<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> EAA 90944<br>
>>>> _______________________________________<br>
>>>> Search the KRnet Archives at<a
>>>> href="http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search";>http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search</a>.<br>
>>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net<br>
>>>> please see other KRnet info at<a
>>>> href="http://www.krnet.org/info.html";>http://www.krnet.org/info.html</a><br>
>>>> <br>
>>> _______________________________________<br>
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> <br>
> <br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 7<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:20:57 -0400<br>
> From: "Jeff Scott"<jscott.pla...@gmx.com><br>
> Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
> To: "KRnet"<kr...@mylist.net><br>
> Message-ID:<20120529192057.50...@gmx.com><br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
> <br>
> There appears to be some confusion about the differences between an E-LSA
> (Experimental - Light Sport Aircraft) vs an E-AB (Experimental - Amateur
> Built) Aircraft meeting LSA standards and flown as an LSA.<br>
> <br>
> As quoted in the post below, for an aircraft to be licensed as an
> E-LSA, it must be an approved E-LSA design and must be built exactly acording
> to plans. End of story.<br>
> <br>
> However, one can build an E-AB and license it as an E-AB, then fly it
> under the LSA rules provided the aircraft meets the LSA standards and flies
> within the prescribed LSA flight envelope. One could modify a KR to meet
> those standards. But the best thing you could do to help yourself with that
> is not use the KR name. Call it an original design since it will be
> redesigned anyway.<br>
> <br>
> Weight for a KR like aircraft shouldn't be an issue as it is only
> designed as a 980# gross aircraft. I know of several that are licensed to
> 1200# gross and I'm sure there are a couple that are heavier than that, but
> Light Sport allows up to 1320# gross. The biggest issue will be to get the
> stall speed down to the LSA max stall speed of 51 mph CAS and max cruise
> (easily limited by limiting rpms) of 138 mph CAS. This shouldn't be too
> difficult to attain as my KR with RAF 48 Diehl Wings has a stall of 52 mph
> with flaps and 55 mph clean. But you will be likely to have fewer issues with
> the FAA and insurance if you call the aircraft an original design and drop
> the KR name. We'll still let you show up at the Gatherings. ;o)<br>
> <br>
> If the aircraft is licensed as an E-AB and flown under Light Sport
> rules, the FAA really doesn't get involved beyond issuing the E-AB
> airworthiness and after the fact if something bad happens. Where bad things
> might happen using the KR name would be when you attempt to insure the plane.
> The insurance underwriters have a list of E-AB planes they know can be flown
> under Light Sport rules. KRs are not on that list. So calling your new Light
> Sport legal plane a KR has the potential to leave you with a plane that you
> can't insure if you choose to fly under Light Sport rules. Yes, your
> insurance will want to know what set of rules you are flying under.<br>
> <br>
> Jeff Scott<br>
> Los Alamos, NM<br>
> <br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: jon kimmel<br>
> Sent: 05/29/12 12:54 PM<br>
> To: KRnet<br>
> Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
> <br>
> My wing is going to have a higher aspect ratio than most...with a 25
> foot span. The spar chords have been beefed up significantly so it will be
> heavier...I didn't design it but I checked it and the logic is sound. It
> could handle the standard kr2 extensions to make it longer than 25 feet, but
> then I would be concerned about where the WAFs mount to the wing. I think the
> toughest part of an lsa would be getting the weight down. Also, when I talked
> to the faa guy he said that a lsa has to be 100% built per plans at
> signoff...it seems like the KR community might have a tough time conforming
> to that standard.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 8<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:57:06 -0500<br>
> From: Bob White<robertwh...@usa.com><br>
> Subject: KR> Upsize?<br>
> To: "kr...@mylist.net"<kr...@mylist.net><br>
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> <br>
> I Haven't even finished my kr2 just yet but expect to have it flying within
> the next 2 months, though I often catch myself day dreaming about building a
> 4 place aircraft. Anyone ever look into upsizing the kr2 design to have
> 4 seats? I know it would be quite a redesign and would probably be
> better off going with a design that was originally intended for 4 seats.<br>
> <br>
> Bob white<br>
> <br>
> robertwh...@usa.com<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 9<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:29:17 -0800<br>
> From: "Lynn"<kl7...@aptalaska.net><br>
> Subject: Re: KR> Upsize?<br>
> To: "KRnet"<kr...@mylist.net><br>
> Message-ID:<135A35026C3C450DBADBD21A60C7E5FB@LynnPC><br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";<br>
> reply-type=original<br>
> <br>
> It's always best to follow the plans.<br>
> <br>
> Lynn Hyder N37LH<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Bob White<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:57 AM<br>
> To: kr...@mylist.net<br>
> Subject: KR> Upsize?<br>
> <br>
> I Haven't even finished my kr2 just yet but expect to have it flying
> within<br>
> the next 2 months, though I often catch myself day dreaming about building
> a<br>
> 4 place aircraft. Anyone ever look into upsizing the kr2 design to have
> 4<br>
> seats? I know it would be quite a redesign and would probably be better
> off<br>
> going with a design that was originally intended for 4 seats.<br>
> <br>
> Bob white<br>
> <br>
> robertwh...@usa.com<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 10<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:12:47 -0400<br>
> From: "Virgil N. Salisbury"<virg...@bellsouth.net><br>
> Subject: Re: KR> Upsize?<br>
> To: KRnet<kr...@mylist.net><br>
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> Try a Turner T-40 ??? Virg<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 5/29/2012 3:57 PM, Bob White
> wrote:<br>
>> I Haven't even finished my kr2 just yet but expect to have it flying within
>> the next 2 months, though I often catch myself day dreaming about building a
>> 4 place aircraft. Anyone ever look into upsizing the kr2 design to
>> have 4 seats? I know it would be quite a redesign and would probably
>> be better off going with a design that was originally intended for 4
>> seats.<br>
>> <br>
>> Bob white<br>
>> <br>
>> robertwh...@usa.com<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
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> Message: 11<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 23:27:05+0200<br>
> From: "Dene Collett"<av...@igen.co.za><br>
> Subject: RE: KR> Upsize?<br>
> To: "'KRnet'"<kr...@mylist.net><br>
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> Bob iy has been done already (I think)<br>
> <br>
> The aircraft I am thinking of is called a KR360<br>
> <br>
> It might not have been a four seater though.<br>
> <br>
> Regards<br>
> Dene Collett<br>
> Avlec Projects cc<br>
> Port Elizabeth<br>
> South Africa<br>
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> <br>
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> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 12<br>
> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 07:55:18+1000<br>
> From: "Martin Pearce"<rocketdri...@optusnet.com.au><br>
> Subject: KR> Removing paint from fibreglass u/c legs ...<br>
> To:<kr...@mylist.net><br>
> Message-ID:<000001cd3de5$bdc9da60$395d8f20$@com.au><br>
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> Can anyone advise me as to the best method to remove old paint from<br>
> fibreglass .... is paint stripper a good idea? I prefer not to sand the<br>
> paint off ( some of it is flaking off anyway) in case of damaging
> the<br>
> fibreglass underneath ..... and I am unsure as to the safety of paint<br>
> stripper chemicals on the fibreglass ..<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Cheers<br>
> <br>
> Martin<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Martin Pearce<br>
> <br>
> KR2 19 - 7814<br>
> <br>
> rocketdri...@optusnet.com.au<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Message: 13<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:56:46 -0700<br>
> From: Dave Acklam<dave.a.kr...@gmail.com><br>
> Subject: Re: KR> Removing paint from fibreglass u/c legs ...<br>
> To: KRnet<kr...@mylist.net><br>
> Message-ID:<br>
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> Paint stripper dissolves fiberglass composites (as I learned when I tried<br>
> to get a botched rattlecan paintjob off a boat)....<br>
> <br>
> An electric detail sander and some fine-grit sandpaper are the way to
> go....<br>
> On May 29, 2012 2:55 PM, "Martin Pearce"<rocketdri...@optusnet.com.au><br>
> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> Can anyone advise me as to the best method to remove old paint from<br>
>> fibreglass .... is paint stripper a good idea? I prefer not to sand the<br>
>> paint off ( some of it is flaking off anyway) in case of damaging
>> the<br>
>> fibreglass underneath ..... and I am unsure as to the safety of paint<br>
>> stripper chemicals on the fibreglass ..<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Cheers<br>
>> <br>
>> Martin<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Martin Pearce<br>
>> <br>
>> KR2 19 - 7814<br>
>> <br>
>> rocketdri...@optusnet.com.au<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
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> Message: 14<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:47:23 -0700<br>
> From: Dave_A<dave.a.kr...@gmail.com><br>
> Subject: Re: KR> Upsize?<br>
> To: virg...@bellsouth.net, KRnet<kr...@mylist.net><br>
> Message-ID:<4fc57c2b....@gmail.com><br>
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> The T-40 isn't a 4-place, and it's very different construction than the<br>
> KR (no foam, minimal composite work). However, I can kind of see the<br>
> comparison between a T-40A and an 'Upsized KR2', when it comes to<br>
> appearance (It's a much heavier bird too - O-320 vs VW& all)...<br>
> <br>
> I've got a T-40AS that I need to finish, once the KR is flying...<br>
> <br>
> That said, I'm working on finishing one of those too...<br>
> <br>
> On 5/29/2012 2:12 PM, Virgil N. Salisbury wrote:<br>
>> Try a Turner T-40 ??? Virg<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On 5/29/2012 3:57 PM, Bob White
>> wrote:<br>
>>> I Haven't even finished my kr2 just yet but expect to have it flying within
>>> the next 2 months, though I often catch myself day dreaming about building
>>> a 4 place aircraft. Anyone ever look into upsizing the kr2 design to
>>> have 4 seats? I know it would be quite a redesign and would probably
>>> be better off going with a design that was originally intended for 4
>>> seats.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Bob white<br>
>>> <br>
>>> robertwh...@usa.com<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
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> <br>
> Message: 15<br>
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:48:13 -0700<br>
> From: Dave_A<dave.a.kr...@gmail.com><br>
> Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
> To: KRnet<kr...@mylist.net><br>
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> KR3 was supposed to be a float plane, right?<br>
> <br>
> On 5/29/2012 6:36 AM, Nerobro wrote:<br>
>> The KR3 already happened. And it didn't end well. :-)
>> going to LSA specs<br>
>> would be an interesting exercise. I wonder what a LSA wing would
>> look<br>
>> like. People would need to be a lot more careful about airframe
>> weight.<br>
>> On May 29, 2012 5:45 AM, "Jim Kendrick"<jim.kendrick1...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>> Tom,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> You pose some interesting points and would like to hear some others to
>>> see<br>
>>> if there is an interest for us old coots too .... But maybe its time for
>>> a<br>
>>> KR3 ?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Jim Kendrick<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Tom<thomas.garne...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Jim Kendrick asked about a super Kr2 becoming an LSA? I have asked
>>>> the<br>
>>>> same question Jim. Having been retired for more than a decade from a
>>>> 45<br>
>>>> year wonderful career in Architecture, I certainly am not qualified to<br>
>>>> design the main wing spar for a longer span for the outer wing panel
>>>> for<br>
>>>> the Kr. At one time, Rand designed outer wing panels for the Kr-1
>>>> to<br>
>>> make<br>
>>>> it into a glider, but I never saw or understood what kind of loads it<br>
>>> would<br>
>>>> carry. In looking at some of the newest LSA designs for sale in
>>>> Sport<br>
>>>> aviation, they have wing spans of around thirty feet for the thirteen<br>
>>>> hundred gross weight. I have not seen what airfoils these designs
>>>> use,<br>
>>> but<br>
>>>> there are several in EAA books that would certainly could be used to
>>>> Slow<br>
>>>> it down, Match the required stall at gross, etc. We old coots that
>>>> could<br>
>>>> fly LSA, might be able to get back into the air? I said it before,
>>>> some<br>
>>> of<br>
>>>> you young engineer types come up with wing designs and plans, we will
>>>> buy<br>
>>>> them. These airplanes all have hershy bar wings.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> on a different thought about Kr-2 pitch sensitive control, there is
>>>> an<br>
>>>> article in January 1988 Sport aviation, that is worth reading before
>>>> the<br>
>>>> first flight of a new Kr-2. EAA Members can access past articles on
>>>> the<br>
>>>> internet, if you can remember all the pass words. Two things that
>>>> stood<br>
>>>> out for me as note worthy are, tail wheel training is necessary, and
>>>> the<br>
>>>> top of control stick only moves at a one half inch radius circle!<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Tom Garner in Nashville<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> EAA 90944<br>
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