WOW?.  can't understand that either? jw
Joe. E. Wallace
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On Feb 22, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Dow, Carl E wrote:

> Upon reading this my neural network's axon bulbs immediately starting 
> secreting neurotransmitters at an unprecedented rate, due to the fact that my 
> blood NaCa2+ were in complete homeostatasis which essentially ended up being 
> an action of a negative feedback system.  So as soon as the NaCa2+ got 
> through to the extensors and flexors of all ten phalanges of my most distal 
> appendicular osseus matter of my superior appendages.  They (NaCa2's) 
> immediately diffused through the simple squamous epithelium in the 
> capillaries proximal to all the implicated sarcomeres of the obviously 
> appropriate myofibrils hence the actin filaments attracted the myosin heads 
> on all of the sarcomere's mysoin filaments of my hand's extensors and flexors 
> (I'll spare you the details) resulting in isotonic contractions in complete 
> control by my neural system which resulted in this e-mail.
> ________________________________________
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [krnet-boun...@mylist.net] on behalf of Peter 
> Diffey [pe...@heroic.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:33 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Re:  android EFIS system
> 
> All modern cars have a diagnostic port called ODB-2 that allows
> maintenance shops to check engine, air bag, a/c performance etc. The
> data is sent to the diagnostic tool via a serial protocol, much like an
> RS232/USB - in fact you can connect ODB-2 via a suitable serial
> connector to a USB port. The diagnostic tool sends a code to the car.
> and the car responds with a string of data. You can buy Bluetooth
> dongles that connect to the ODB-2 port.
> 
> Essentially the Torque Pro software running on an android device can be
> used to display this environment / engine data. Not all cars use the
> same call/response codes, so the guy when he designed Torque Pro made
> the software configurable via a simple menu interface, so if there is
> something on a car that can be reported, you can configure Torque Pro to
> request that data. The big prob is the manufacturers don't like telling
> folks what data can be requested - GM charge $7500 for the information.
> 
> As long as you have some way to generate engine information in a way
> that emulates the way a Ford or GM car present data, then you can report
> that data to Torque Pro.
> 
> ODB-2 is a very simple protocol, data requests are no more than 4bytes
> of data, the request is normally 8 bytes, so emulating an engine
> management system is quite easy, there are several proprietary gadgets
> that can do this and there is Arduino which is an open-source
> microprocessor that has up to 40 analog and digital input pins that can
> be connected to sensors. The Arduino can then be programmed up to
> respond to requests from Torque Pro and send back the appropriate result.
> 
> Off the shelf sensors for temperature, oil pressure etc are obviously
> simple to read using the Arduino, encoded output from an altimeter
> should also be possible.
> 
> Programming up the Arduino isn't particularly difficult, anybody who can
> write C programs will find it easy.
> 
> If I was looking at implementing this kind of system, I think I would
> have 2 low cost 7in tablets, one running Torque Pro, and a second device
> running GPS
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
> On 20/02/12 15:14, Ray Fuenzalida wrote:
>> You are speaking an incredibly different language than I (or most people) 
>> understand.  Can you start over and list how to do this - step by step - so 
>> that the non technical types can follow this.   Thanks.  Looks pretty cool.
>> 
>> Ray
>> New Orleans
>> 
>> --- On Sun, 2/19/12, Peter Diffey<pe...@heroic.co.uk>  wrote:
>> 
>> From: Peter Diffey<pe...@heroic.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: KR>  Re:  android EFIS system
>> To: "KRnet"<kr...@mylist.net>
>> Date: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 2:00 PM
>> 
>> It's even easier than I thought
>> 
>> Torque Pro allows the user to create custom instruments, so you just go
>> into the config menu, and create a new screen, tell it what PID to send
>> to the sensor interface module, and tell it what you expect to get back.
>> 
>> So I created a couple of custom sensors and added them to a new display,
>> here it is
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/peter_diffey/6904571017/
>> 
>> Of course I will need to write some code to run on the Arduino interface
>> board and buy a couple of sensors.
>> 
>> Torque pro Android App is about £2.95
>> 
>> The Arduino boards is £21.90, the bluetooth module is £9.90
>> 
>> Famous last words it looks a doddle
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19/02/12 15:29, Peter Diffey wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Dave is spot on, it's easy to write stuff to interface with the internal 
>>> sensors, the only problem is those sensors are pretty low spec, and vary 
>>> between different devices.
>>> 
>>> To interface with engine and environment sensors is the hard bit, I have 
>>> recently been doing some stuff with an Arduino micro board which can 
>>> interface with up to 40 sensors and has Bluetooth connectivity, the idea is 
>>> to have the arduino yodelling data to the paired bt device like a bt GPS 
>>> does. The data is then saved to a database so can be accessed either 
>>> real-time from an efis etc or later analysed on the ground.
>>> 
>>> A similar android app already exists that reads a cars engine management 
>>> system via a Bluetooth ODB2 device - have a look at the Torque Pro android 
>>> app.
>>> 
>>> I figure that if someone was to do arduino interfaces to the common 
>>> aircraft sensors, then get them to output STD ODB2 messages, the Torque Pro 
>>> guy could create the display elements in a matter of hours (if he's 
>>> interested)
>>> 
>>> Peter Diffey
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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