WARNING - Long Post

Oscar wrote - 
>You can do whatever you want to the verticals in the wing spars, you
>can extend the stub spars or the outer spars, you can beef up the wing
>attach fittings, change the wings and wingtips- but I believe prior
>analysis has shown that the weak point in the whole thing is the
>connection right at the spar and the fuselage and that is where the
>maximum moment will occur on a cantilevered wing.  Increase the load
>that the spar has to carry and you need to increase its ability to
>transfer that moment to or from the fuselage.

Kinda right, kinda not.
The fuselage is not supposed to, nor is it designed to carry bending loads from 
the wing spar.  That's why the center of the spar "carries through" the 
fuselage.  Do a simple thought experiment.  Metally cut the center spar, and 
just glue what's on the outside of the fuselage to the fuselage side...  Would 
it stay?  No.  Possibly not even under it's own weight, let alone a flight load.

When analyzing a wing spar, an engineer doesn't model that spar as a cantilever 
beam with a fixed end at the fuselage side.  Fixed implies an infinitely stiff 
material, which the fuse sides definitely are not.  The glue joint between the 
fuse sides and the spar are intended to carry the lifting loads only through 
shear.  Max bending moment still occurs in the center of the carry-through 
section, though there is a slight increase in stresses in the local area where 
the fuselage meets the wing spar due compression and a bit of added bending 
stresses.  The fuselage sides actually move quite a bit through this whole 
ordeal, though not enough to be visible while you are in the cockpit pulling 5 
g's.

Most low or mid wing aircraft that I've seen and/or worked on have the main 
spar attached to the fuselage with just two bolts.  Again, this allows the spar 
to flex and carry the bending loads on its own while the bolts carry the 
lifting loads (via shear).  

Randomly beefing up areas on a wing spar is unwise and dangerous unless you 
know a little bit about structures and the lift distribution.  Yea, a lot of 
people get away with it, and no, you don't have to be an "engineer" if you have 
some intuition on the matter and some luck.  We aren't building spacecraft or 
anything, but rest assured a broken spar will cause you to have a bad day.  
There are lots of places that a seeming innocuous change to the structure, like 
adding an extra layer of ply to the front or rear, can cause a SIGNIFICANT 
increase in local stresses to the point something may break.  Another scary 
thing I've seen one person do is to just use a flat plate for the wing attach 
fitting instead of putting the various sized holes along it's length.  They 
thought they were making it stronger, when in fact they were really 
compromising the spar where the attach fitting bolts on.  Not good.  There are 
a lot more things to look at too like torsion, shear, etc... that I won't get 
into that you have to look at when designing or modifying a spar.

Sorry to make such a long post, and I don't want to sound like I'm on a soap 
box.  I'm all about making things better and experimenting (that's what we are 
doing this for anyway!)...  I just want to make it clear for those people that 
sometimes forget, that there are consequences for every design decision or 
alteration that is made, good or bad.  Be responsible and if you really don't 
know what it will do, ask someone that's qualified to answer the question.  
There are probably a couple of them on this list that are willing to help. 
"Good" engineers are indeed hard to find, but it's worth the extra energy to 
seek one out.

All that said, I think the 1 pc spar is a wonderful idea, and I wish I had 
built mine that way back 7 years ago.  Also, my analysis shows the KR-1 wing at 
the gross weight I'll be flying at to be 11g's...  a bit overbuilt.  I'm sure 
the -2 wing is somewhere close to that, but I haven't run the numbers.   

I'll go back to lurking now



-- 
Matt Elder
Orangeburg, SC

KR-1 under construction...

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