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>Today's Topics:
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>   1. Re:  Landing gear and brakes. (Lee Van Dyke)
>   2.  Progress (Lee Van Dyke)
>   3. Re:  Landing gear and brakes. (Brian Coss)
>   4. Re:  KRnet List Rules - please follow them! (Mark Langford)
>   5. Re:  Urgent- Need another Engine mount (Derek Lewis)
>   6. RE:  Still for sale. (Tim & Gail McKenna)
>   7.  KRnet posts, and the rules (Mark Langford)
>   8.  retracts (Clay)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:22:51 -0700
>From: Lee Van Dyke <l...@vandyke2.com>
>Subject: Re: KR> Landing gear and brakes.
>To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>Message-ID: <2ed8e85b-acc4-4732-ab22-461ec1601...@vandyke2.com>
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>Stick with the retract gear.  Get it flying again
>
>Lee Van Dyke
>
>On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Brian Coss <briancossdul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Im in the retract dilemma, gonna have to stick with it 4 now, very
>> pricey!!!, I'd like to make a 6 care system out of the old spring bar cut in
>> half, would like to find drawings on mounting bracket an attachment points
>> to make a fixed gear out of my spring bar.
>> On Oct 1, 2011 2:12 PM, "Virgil N. Salisbury" <virg...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there a POSITIVE lock down system for the retracts ? Virg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/28/2011 10:21 PM, Brian Coss wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the info on the retracts,Dave, much appreciated,leaning to the
>>>> fixed gear is gettin more interesting, a used, proven, fixed type for krs
>>>> would be nice,if I can find one?
>>>> On Sep 28, 2011 9:02 PM, "Prototype Mech"<prototypem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Brian,
>>>>> I have a Plans Built KR2 with retracts too. The retracts arn't bad. The
>>>> 
>>> 
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 22:01:23 -0700
>From: Lee Van Dyke <l...@vandyke2.com>
>Subject: KR> Progress
>To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>Message-ID: <3df07705-eb07-46ba-a13d-087c491cf...@vandyke2.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset=us-ascii
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>More work on my friends wings today.  More glass patches and body fill. I will 
>start early in the AM tomorrow.  Found out my day will be cut short to move 
>daughter back home.  But I will get up early and do the sanding that needs to 
>be done.  Paint will be on this week.  Something everyday   Period
>
>Lee Van Dyke
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 07:39:39 -0500
>From: Brian Coss <briancossdul...@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: KR> Landing gear and brakes.
>To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>Message-ID:
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>
>Thx lee, gd advice! Guna keep it simple for now! :) I will just fabricated a
>nice latch mechanism, I have a nice pic of 1 in a newsletter. been trying to
>send a picture to virgil, :)
>On Oct 1, 2011 11:23 PM, "Lee Van Dyke" <l...@vandyke2.com> wrote:
>> Stick with the retract gear. Get it flying again
>>
>> Lee Van Dyke
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Brian Coss <briancossdul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Im in the retract dilemma, gonna have to stick with it 4 now, very
>>> pricey!!!, I'd like to make a 6 care system out of the old spring bar cut
>in
>>> half, would like to find drawings on mounting bracket an attachment
>points
>>> to make a fixed gear out of my spring bar.
>>> On Oct 1, 2011 2:12 PM, "Virgil N. Salisbury" <virg...@bellsouth.net>
>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a POSITIVE lock down system for the retracts ? Virg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/28/2011 10:21 PM, Brian Coss wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the info on the retracts,Dave, much appreciated,leaning to
>the
>>>>> fixed gear is gettin more interesting, a used, proven, fixed type for
>krs
>>>>> would be nice,if I can find one?
>>>>> On Sep 28, 2011 9:02 PM, "Prototype Mech"<prototypem...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Brian,
>>>>>> I have a Plans Built KR2 with retracts too. The retracts arn't bad.
>The
>>>>>
>>>>
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 09:28:40 -0500
>From: "Mark Langford" <m...@n56ml.com>
>Subject: Re: KR> KRnet List Rules - please follow them!
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Message-ID: <4081AEAC8C8F405098DF192089162CAC@base>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>       reply-type=original
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>OK, time for a reminder that folks please read the list rules and COMPLY 
>with them!  You are supposed to delete all of a message to which you are 
>responding down to a sentence or two that shows what it is you are 
>responding to, not just the whole message, the message that the previous guy 
>replied to, the message that the previous previous guy replied to, and the 
>message that the previous previous previous guy replied to!  Why do I care? 
>Because this thread just put four times as much stuff in the archive as 
>needed to go there, and when future builders go sifting through the archive 
>looking for the answer to their question, they'll spend FOUR TIMES LONGER 
>getting their answer!
>
>I can fix it so that 5 lines is all you get to send a message.  Don't make 
>me do it.
>
>Please READ THE RULES and COMPLY with them.  Since some of you are too lazy 
>to visit the page where the lives exist, they are printed for you below, 
>along with four more posts that will go into the archives to waste even more 
>time.
>------------------------------------------------
>KRNetiquette Rules of the List
>We have a few folks who feel compelled to comment on just about every post 
>made, and I can only be thankful that all 600 of us don't do that, or we'd 
>be wading through several thousand emails a day! Please be considerate of 
>your fellow KRNetHeads. A few of us would do well to heed the following 
>advice:
>
>1) Think long and hard before you publicly flame somebody on this list. This 
>list may not be like others you've been on. We don't do that here, period. 
>If you have a personal problem with another lister, you need to address it 
>off the list and spare the rest of us your angst. If you disagree with 
>something somebody else posted, you can disagree in a nice manner without 
>getting all bent out of shape. Just point out your side of the discussion 
>and let others be the judge. Public flaming and superfluous bad language 
>will not be tolerated.
>
>2) When replying to a post, delete everything except one or two key 
>sentences from the previous post. It's really ridiculous to have to search 
>thru 3 or 4 pages of stuff to find down at the bottom where some clown wrote 
>"me too". Carrying all that useless baggage around from previous posts also 
>gives people fits when searching the archives later, as they end up getting 
>10 hits for the same message.
>
>3) Conversely, at least put SOMETHING in the post to remind us what you're 
>replying to. A post like "yeah, that's how I did mine and it works great" 
>doesn't mean a thing if you don't know what the guy's talking about, so 
>please cut and paste some of what you're replying to above your comments.
>
>4) Carefully consider whether or not you even need to reply to a post. 
>Saying "me too", or "I don't know" doesn't contribute to the thread, it just 
>makes the list more bothersome. If you don't know what you're talking about, 
>maybe you should be listening, rather than talking. There are FEW people who 
>know everything about everything. Try to stick to things you KNOW about, and 
>let others answer the rest.
>
>5) Try to write "keeper" posts if you're the expert on something. Cover the 
>whole issue, answer all possible questions, address both sides of an issue, 
>and make it a post that others will want to save or print out and keep. 
>Those are the gems that we all search for on KRNet.
>
>6) Put your email address in your signature to make emailing others "offnet" 
>easier. If we all had our addresses at the bottom of our posts, it would be 
>far easier to "email direct". If it's blue just click on it, if it's not, 
>cut it and paste it into the "To" box. If throwing your email address out on 
>the internet makes you nervous (and it should), camoflage it a little by 
>replacing the @ symbol with "at", or something similar, so that bot crawlers 
>won't know what to do with it.
>
>7) If you don't have anything subtantial to say, please don't post anything. 
>This is a KR list, and as such, really needs to stay focused on KRs, or at 
>least airplanes. With over 600 people on the list, if we all decided to say 
>something every day we'd have a real problem. Ask yourself "do 600 people 
>really need to see this, or are 600 people going to be annoyed by this?" 
>Personally, my time is pretty precious to me, and I hate to waste it reading 
>inane email. And is it something that you could find somewhere else?
>
>8) Don't send enclosed files directly to the list. Either post it to a web 
>site or get someone else to post it so others can see if they want, but 
>don't have to if they don't. Also, enclosures are famous for carrying 
>viruses, which we could all do without. I usually delete messages with 
>enclosures immediately, unless I'm expecting something from that person. I 
>don't have two days to rebuild my computer "for fun". And by all means, arm 
>yourself with an anti-virus program such as Norton Antivirus or McAfee 
>Antivirus. There are even FREE antivirus programs out there. GET ONE!
>
>9) If you have something you want to share, specify that you want replies to 
>go offline. It's nice to say "hey, I've got the holy grail on thingamajigs, 
>anybody want it?", but when 15 people reply online that they want it it gets 
>kinda painful wading thru all of those posts for nothing. A gentle reminder 
>to "reply offline" and furnishing your email address will be a big help.
>
>10) Do not advertise commercial products to this list. It's OK to let folks 
>know there's a new service or a new business, but point them to web site. We 
>don't need a bunch of advertising here. Personal testimonials as to a 
>product's usefullness are welcome anytime, as long as it's not YOUR product. 
>Advertising and selling KRs or KR parts IS permissible anytime, however.
>
>11) Try not to take things personally. We're all here to help each other. 
>There are usually several ways to take comments. Always try to pick the 
>"nicest" interpretation, rather than trying to read animousity into a post. 
>It's a lot easier to just ignore a snide comment and let it slide. Try to 
>avoid "having the last word".
>
>12) It's OK to interject some personality into emails, just make a 
>contribution while you're at it. I like to let other KRNetters know who I am 
>and what my interests are, but I try to tack that sort of stuff to the 
>bottom of a post in which I've made some sort of contribution to the cause.
>
>13) Keep personal stuff offline. Finding that some other KRNetter is from 
>your neck of the woods isn't a good enough reason to bother us all with your 
>efforts to strike up an acquantance. Email him direct, rather than to the 
>list.
>
>14) Do not forward "chain mail" or ANYTHING that urges the sender to "send 
>this to everyone in your address book", or "forward to all your friends". 
>These are almost always either hoaxes, viruses, or just plain don't have any 
>place on KRnet. This includes messages dealing with politics, nationalism, 
>or religion. There are plenty of email lists where you can flood your email 
>inbox with warm, touchy-feely messages from the heart. KRNet is NOT going to 
>become one of them!
>
>15) Change the subject if the thread starts to deviate from the original 
>intent. This makes searching the archive much more productive and far less 
>time-consuming for future builders who are in search of information.
>
>16) Please read ALL of your messages before replying to ANY of them. Why? 
>Because much of the time, your reply will have already been answered by 
>somebody else (or lots of people), and your reply may just be redundant, or 
>even worse, already disproved by somebody that knows more about it than you 
>do!
>
>17) Those who violate these suggestions may find themselves wondering why 
>they don't get KRNet mail anymore. I reserve the right to throw anybody 
>overboard that I see fit...
>
>Mark Langford
>ML at N56ML.com
>website at http://www.N56ML.com
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Yes, I know I reposted the junk below, just to show to show what I'm talking 
>about, but here it is again.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Brian Coss" <briancossdul...@gmail.com>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:39 AM
>Subject: Re: KR> Landing gear and brakes.
>
>
>Thx lee, gd advice! Guna keep it simple for now! :) I will just fabricated a
>nice latch mechanism, I have a nice pic of 1 in a newsletter. been trying to
>send a picture to virgil, :)
>On Oct 1, 2011 11:23 PM, "Lee Van Dyke" <l...@vandyke2.com> wrote:
>> Stick with the retract gear. Get it flying again
>>
>> Lee Van Dyke
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Brian Coss <briancossdul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Im in the retract dilemma, gonna have to stick with it 4 now, very
>>> pricey!!!, I'd like to make a 6 care system out of the old spring bar cut
>in
>>> half, would like to find drawings on mounting bracket an attachment
>points
>>> to make a fixed gear out of my spring bar.
>>> On Oct 1, 2011 2:12 PM, "Virgil N. Salisbury" <virg...@bellsouth.net>
>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a POSITIVE lock down system for the retracts ? Virg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/28/2011 10:21 PM, Brian Coss wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the info on the retracts,Dave, much appreciated,leaning to
>the
>>>>> fixed gear is gettin more interesting, a used, proven, fixed type for
>krs
>>>>> would be nice,if I can find one?
>>>>> On Sep 28, 2011 9:02 PM, "Prototype Mech"<prototypem...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Brian,
>>>>>> I have a Plans Built KR2 with retracts too. The retracts arn't bad.
>The
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________
>>>> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
>>>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
>>>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
>>> _______________________________________
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>>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
>>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________
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>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
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>_______________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 16:38:02 GMT
>From: "Derek Lewis" <numskul...@netzero.net>
>Subject: Re: KR> Urgent- Need another Engine mount
>To: kr...@mylist.net
>Message-ID: <20111002.103802.916...@webmail52.dca.untd.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>
>It sounds like the old Hapi mount.  And I think I have one sitting in my 
>garage.
>
>Derek
>
>---------- Original Message ----------
>From: "Phillip Matherson" <phillipmathe...@bigpond.com>
>To: "KR Builder & Pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: KR> Urgent- Need another Engine mount
>Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 14:10:01 +1100
>
>I have a spare mount but I have found it is NOT as wide across the fire wall
>mounts as the damaged mount.
>
> 
>
>This is a KR2 mount not sure is it is Harpi or what????
>
> 
>
>I need a mount with fire wall brackets with the 4 x AN3 bolts per mount (16
>bolts) and
>
>16 inches ( centre to centre) wide and 13 1/2 inches deep. 
>
>(Some mounts are only 13inches wide)
>
>The engine is 8 1/4 inched off the fire wall.
>
> 
>
>The engine bolts holes are 9 3/4 inches  wide x 10 3/4 deep.
>
> 
>
>Both are the same except the width of the mount brackets
>
> 
>
>Phil Matheson              
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>_______________________________________
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>
>Message: 6
>Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 16:34:23 -0400
>From: "Tim & Gail McKenna" <gtkbm...@si.rr.com>
>Subject: RE: KR> Still for sale.
>To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Message-ID:
>       
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>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="us-ascii"
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>Yes, for parts only.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
>Of badbob0...@embarqmail.com
>Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 9:45 PM
>To: kr...@mylist.net
>Subject: KR> Still for sale.
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/103552664644911775549/September222011 
>
>Bob Johnson
>Willamina, OR
>(971) 645-9491
>_______________________________________
>Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
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>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:37:30 -0500
>From: "Mark Langford" <m...@n56ml.com>
>Subject: KR> KRnet posts, and the rules
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Message-ID: <3C999C9694F14DF58042FE11CA2207E6@base>
>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="Windows-1252"
>
>I didn't say nobody could post anything, especially if it means getting a 
>question answered about building or flying KRs.  I just asked that you spend 
>another few seconds to follow the rules and delete all the extraneous stuff.  
>It's a pretty simple concept...
>
>Mark Langford
>ML at N56ML.com
>website at http://www.N56ML.com 
>--------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 22:08:27 -0500
>From: "Clay" <clay.wil...@cox.net>
>Subject: KR> retracts
>To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Message-ID: <000001cc8179$b90721a0$2b1564e0$@wil...@cox.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="us-ascii"
>
>I apologize in advance, I know this subject has been hammered, but I am in
>need of advice. 
>
>Does anyone know of a good way to make a set of retracts into fixed gear? A
>way of bolting down the latches?
>
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  I have been searching the
>archives and didn't find a definite solution. (it is probably right in front
>of me)
>
>Please contact me off net.
>
>Thank you,
>
> 
>
>Clayton Williams
>
>N930RT
>
>
>
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>
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