On 11/3/2010 7:59 PM, krnet-requ...@mylist.net wrote: > Send KRnet mailing list submissions to > kr...@mylist.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > krnet-requ...@mylist.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > krnet-ow...@mylist.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. list moderation... (Mark Langford) > 2. Fly By Wire (Jose Fuentes) > 3. RE: Fly By Wire (David Goodman) > 4. RE: Fly By Wire (twarner) > 5. Re: Fly By Wire (Jose Fuentes) > 6. RE: Fly By Wire (David Goodman) > 7. Re: Fly By Wire (Jose Fuentes) > 8. RE: Fly By Wire (twarner) > 9. Re: Fly By Wire (Tony King) > 10. Fly By Wire (John Caudle) > 11. Re: Fly By Wire (Jose Fuentes) > 12. Re: Fly By Wire (Glenn Martin) > 13. Re: Fly By Wire (Jose Fuentes) > 14. RE: KR FBW and other "stuff" (M Blank) > 15. Re: RE: KR FBW and other "stuff" (Ronald Wright) > 16. RE: RE: KR FBW and other "stuff" (Bob Buzby) > 17. KR FBW and other "stuff"/ warning (Larry&Sallie Flesner) > 18. Re: RE: KR FBW and other "stuff" (Mark Langford) > 19. Re: Fly By Wire (jmelvin...@aol.com) > 20. Ordered my canopy today and other updates (Craig Williams) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 06:54:03 -0500 > From: "Mark Langford"<n5...@hiwaay.net> > Subject: KR> list moderation... > To: "KRnet"<kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID:<bfe9c93a1fa34dceb090e85fa0845...@net.tbe.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I'm sure some KRnet list members wonder why I'm such a jerk about people > making useless liittle comments that don't contribute anything toward helping > somebody solve a problem, answer a question, or in some way further the body > of knowledge of building and flying KRs. Most people get it, some don't. > I've explained it a hundred times, but I'll try to make it very simple for > those who don't understand. The vast majority of list members get it, but > the few that don't make the rest of us miserable. > > - If we bog this list down with 50 messages a day that don't mean anything, > some of the contributors with the most insight and willingness to help will > feel like they're wasting their time here, and will simply unsubscribe from > the list, preferring to do something more productive with their time. It's > happened before, and when it gets bad, they leave for another year or two, if > not forever. > - By not deleting all previous posts (except for a sentence or two pertaining > to what you are addressing), you bog down the archive, which future members > will be sifting through to find some nugget of info they need to get > something accomplished. And it might be YOU that finds yourself finding the > same messages over and over again, rather than the answer to your question, > and wasting YOUR time rather than others. Maybe THAT will make a difference > to you, since inconveniencing others doesn't.. > > I can't ride herd on 750 people, keeping tally on who does what, how many > times, but when there's a total disregard for the rules by somebody, I'll go > back and look at their previous posts, and if I when I see a pattern of > examples of the same sort of disregard, it's all I can do to keep from > throwing them off the list immediately...and sometimes I just go ahead and do > it. Public humiliation seems to be the only thing that works, and it gets > the point across to others (well, SOMETIMES) of what is acceptable and what's > not. > > So that makes me the jerk, but I do what I have to do to keep this list > useable. I shouldn't have to do that. I have far better things to do with > my time. Hopefully that's "enough said" for a while, but the usual scenario > is that it'll only make a difference for 2-3 days, if that long... > > Mark Langford > n5...@hiwaay.net > website www.n56ml.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:02:25 -0400 > From: Jose Fuentes<jose.fuen...@gmail.com> > Subject: KR> Fly By Wire > To: KRnet<kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: > <aanlktikjccsw64lfdrdfxq38hvn8hfeblan883egj...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi everyone, > > I had been thinking about a fly by wire design, I had posted this on my > other forum I'm a member of, but too many of them are "BUILD IT to PLANS!!" > type, I like to change things for the better. > > I'm thinking one of the changes I could do to the KR I'm planning on getting > is to figure out how to do fly by wire, I'm thinking of a full feature Servo > that can go in several directions along with one for the rudder. I had > originally thought about using liner actuators but if power goes off there > is no way to dis-engage them to take over manually. > > I've found a magnetic driven actuator that moves the rod based on power > applied, when no power applied it moves freely. Has anyone had any > experience with this? They are a bit costly and seem heavy and would need 3 > of them. > > This of course would be hooked up to a computer since each unit would have a > built in POT so I can track exactly how much it moved, the joy stick would > then provide the computer with how much I want to move in either direction > which would then control the actuators. > > I would also wan tto make the manual stick be able to fold down or > disconnect but have a quick way to shove it on a nub or hole and boom have a > quick connect for when I have to take manual control. > > thoughts? > > Joe > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 > 08:36:00 > > Mark, my two cent's worth. You are doing an outstanding job of operating and managing the list. Thank You. There are thousands of other places for people to place their off-topic babble, and you do what you have to do in order to keep this forum usable. I have absolutely no quibbles with ANYTHING you deem unnecessary, or chaff, or just plain nonsense! It keeps the list readable and usable for the rest of us.
Dave.
