Gentlemen,

With an attempt not to keep beating on the horse I would like to highlight  
a couple of things David wrote in his email (which I did not copy in it's  
entirety here to save space...reread his email.)

Number one is that the NTSB did not publish a complete accident  
investigation which determined the exact cause of the crash, and since no one  
was 
killed, will probably not actually conduct a complete investigation to  
"Standard".  So you can speculate all you want about the cause based on  what 
the 
"Preliminary Report" implies, or based on what the media reported,  ....or 
you can base your speculations on David's "eyewitness" account.   Since David 
was not at the controls, even as an "eyewitness" he can  not be expected to 
have known exactly what the PIC was thinking or telling his  hands on the 
controls to do at the time.  Has anybody ever talked to police  investigators 
about how completely skewed eyewitness accounts can be.   Still, as an 
experienced pilot trained by the military as an instructor and  accident 
investigator, I trust David to have been paying pretty good  attention to what 
was 
actually transpiring at the time of the mishap. So I would  put a lot of 
weight on his Account being a fairly accurate depiction of the  event.

The Second thing I would like to highlight is David's comments about KR  
Handling characteristics and flying them in general.  I have flown a couple  
of KR2s.  I don't have the experience David, or a lot of you other guys  have 
with them by flying multiple versions, but I have yet to experience this  
instability or twitchiness that is constantly being referred to, but even 
with  close to 8000 hours of flight time I wouldn't consider jumping into any 
aircraft  (even a cessna 152) that I had never flown before and attempting to 
fly it  alone.  So just like I would do with any other unknown aircraft, I 
chose to  fly first with an experienced KR2 pilot before flying my own KR2.  
He  carefully prepared me for the worst, and explained what to expect and 
how to  recover from "pilot induced oscillations", then sat back and chuckled 
when he  gave me the controls.  I asked him a few minutes after taking the 
controls  when to expect the "wierdness" to happen and he had to take the 
controls back  and put in some major inputs to simulate and demonstrate for me 
what everyone  was talking about.  I still haven't figured out how to make 
the airplane do  that, but will take everyone's word for it that some folks 
are ham fisted.   The key point here being that "ham fisted" or not, why 
would anyone not get  checked out in an unknown airplane before soloing in it?

Sorry for being long winded.    Just like all you builders  use the wisdom 
of the genius aeronautical engineering types (like Mark Langford,  etc.) to 
keep from having to learn building techniques the hard way, David  Goodman 
has graciously offered up his expertise as an instructor. Pick his brain  
about flying KR2s and if you can get to him, let him fly with you, before you  
have to learn flying techniques the hard way (like by having to practice 
your  building techniques again due to airframe damage.)

Todd Thelin
Spanaway, WA


In a message dated 10/11/2010 9:44:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
dgood...@verticalavionics.com writes:

Guys,

I was in this airplane when it crashed.  If you want  to know what 
happened...


There are more photos and write-up of the  mishap aircraft  at:
http://sites.google.com/a/wildblue.net/goodmans/Home/2010-kr2-mishap

If  you have questions about flying a KR for the first time, call me as 
well.
I  will spend however much time you need or want to help you get ready  for
that first flight.

IHS,
David Goodman
Vertical Avionics,  Inc.
www.verticalavionics.com


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