Rearward sweep is sometimes used for in a correction for W&B. I'm thinking 
the wooden Spencer Aircar Amphib. It was repowered w/ a bigger engine & has 
a 3200lbs gross wt nd a sweep was put in...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hall, Rodney CTR NNSY, C210" <rodney.r.hall....@navy.mil>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: KR> forward sweep


Forward sweep has been used on Amateur built aircraft before. The Cygnet has 
a touch of forward sweep as does the Schleicher K-8 glider. A small amount 
of forward sweep does not require sophisticated computer controls however 
deviating from the designers plans, especially with a proven design such as 
the KR-2 can be very, very dangerous. A seemingly insignificant amount of 
change in the wing geometry could cause unforeseen stability problems or 
cause the plane to become uncontrollable in certain situations. If you don't 
like the design your building build a different design don't make untested 
changes especially with control surfaces and wings.

Rodney Hall

-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-bounces+rodney.r.hall.ctr=navy....@mylist.net 
[mailto:krnet-bounces+rodney.r.hall.ctr=navy....@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
Hal Dantone
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:35
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> forward sweep

To Bill:
Mooney's are not unstable, and their wings do not have forward sweep. They 
are great aircraft. Their leading edge is straight (perpendicular to the CL 
of the fuselage) and their trailing edge is swept forward which gives the 
appearance of forward sweep, but it is the leading edge that matters.
Hal

--- On Fri, 7/16/10, Tim <t...@telus.net> wrote:

From: Tim <t...@telus.net>
Subject: Re: KR> forward sweep
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 10:11 AM


Back around 1988, Mike Sacoutis bought a wood wing Mooney off a Grass 
Airstrip. It had sat there 'outside' for years.

After some maintenance, he talked 'Serge' German war Test Pilot, to fly it 
back to our Airport, approx 10 miles......Serge did, uneventfully.....Within 
a week a huge wind storm, lifted the Mooney up & thru it ontop of the 
Airport's 8' chain link fence.

Both wings were snapped off, exposing inside the box spar, a friggin 
Mushroom farm. In places you could poke yer finger through the web.....Serge 
was upset with Mike> "That's the last GD time I'm ferrying your 'Junk'
Deals".....Those moments in AV-U never forget ;-)

CldLk-Tim

----- Original Message -----
From: <zorc...@aol.com>


Then I guess every Mooney out there must be terribly unstable....

Bill Zorc
Vero Beach, FL
RV-8 N2046F




In a message dated 7/12/2010 12:45:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
aerona...@sbcglobal.net writes:

On a more basic note, I will add two things about forward sweep.
1. Your wings must be much stronger to handle the forces caused by the
negative stability.
2. It generally requires a computer controlled flight system to handle the
bending moments.
Not recommended.
Hal Dantone



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