Joe, great write  up. Glad everything worked out in getting her on the ground. 
Your observations and reflections on what you had seen is as valuable 
information as I have seen on the KRNet.  Good stuff Joe, get her back flying 
soon.

Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

RV-7 slider "Black Magic" 
Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda
Barrett Precision O 360 A1A
Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 
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> From: joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:31:24 +0000
> To: kr...@mylist.net; corvaircr...@mylist.net
> CC: 
> Subject: KR> dropped seat up-date
> 
> Good Morning Guys,
> As most of you may know On my way to landing at the Virginia Regional Fly Inn 
> I suffered a engine malfunction. While the engine was indeed running rough, I 
> was able to quickly identify the cylinder that was in-distress and made 
> several tries at correcting the problem from cockpit controls by varying 
> throttle  and mixture. I was still producing power and was able to accelerate 
> and climb. I made the decision to land normal nd not screw u the pattern that 
> was very busy. I was able to taxi to a parking spot and shut down all with 
> out anyone else being aware that I had a issue. 
>      On the ground it was determined that there was no compression at all in 
> the center passenger side cylinder.
> I made the decision to truck N357CJ home. 
>       This  brings us to the forensics of the problem. I did a static leak 
> test and found it to be a full leak thru the intake. I also could see the 
> valve seat thru the spark plug hole. I pulled the head off and was able to 
> see exactly what was suspected. The valve seat had come completely out and 
> turned some what sideways and the valve had beat the seat into the head. As i 
> understand this is something that happens to the corvair occasionally. 
>        The most important information i am leading up to here are the signs 
> that I pretty much ignored that might have prevented as much damage and 
> certainly saved a $1000 in travel expenses.
>        A couple weeks before the trip to Virginia i had changed the spark 
> plugs. The actual event of the valve seat becoming loose may or may not have 
> happened either right before i changed plugs or the very next flight after. 
> In any case I did not notice the temperature change until the first flight 
> after changing the plugs. The front cylinder on the right bank had a higher 
> temp than normal by 20 to 30 deg. The middle cylinder head temp was lower by 
> 90  to 100 deg and the rear cylinder head temp was normal. I had put this 
> info out on the net and got a couple responses that I had not considered and 
> that was that I may have damaged the temp sensors. I had not thought that I 
> damaged them but became more nonchalant about the problem. The other thing 
> was that i had more trouble getting consistent exhaust temps. And in fact the 
> entire bank of temps would switch from one bank to the other as far as the 
> high exhaust temps with changes in throttle settings and even change when 
> sett at one setting for 3 or 4 minutes at a time.
>        I present this information for everyone else to learn from.. I have a 
> full set of instruments to draw information from. I did not properly process 
> the information I received from them. For those that do not have full sensors 
> I believe that you are putting yourself at a disadvantage to start with but 
> would give you an excuse for not realizing a problem. For the pilots that do 
> have full engine monitoring i would strongly encourage vigilance in 
> processing the information that is presented. I should have verified the 
> probes were indeed faulty or not. Then I would have known that something was 
> amiss. I still may not have known what so I am saying now that if you 
> experience a low cylinder head temp that can not be changed by throttle 
> settings or mixture changes you should certainly consider that you may be on 
> the way to loosing a valve seat.
>         As a side note I burn 100ll all the time. when i had the heads off at 
> 280 hours there was a very thick build up of lead on the entire combustion 
> chamber. At this time there is over 200 hours on the cleaned up combustion 
> chamber. There is again a lead deposit but not near a bad. More like 20% as 
> much as it was 2 years ago. The difference is only that i have been using 
> Marvel Mystery Oil in the fuel. Not by any means a scientific test nor am I 
> encouraging the use. Merely stating that I am trying it and it seems to make 
> difference. The worst part of the lead is that it is attaching to the valves 
> and making deposits on the seats that probably keep them from sealing 
> completely at some point in time.  
>         I'm not sure how I am going to have the head problem resolved yet or 
> when i will get to give a flight report  again but it won't be that long til 
> I'm free to time travel again.
> Joe Horton, Coopersburg Pa.
>        
>  
> 
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