Scott Perkins wrote:

> The question I have not seen answered is whether the KR-1 plans
> are available from the RAND company and if so how much and how long
> does it take and what kind of condition are they in.

Sure they're still available.  See http://www.fly-kr.com/kr1.htm for how to 
order, and http://www.fly-kr.com/ for the phone/fax number.  The best (and 
perhaps only) way to get them is send a check for the proper amount 
(including shipping) and you'll get them eventually.

They are not the most detailed plans you'll ever see, but what would you 
expect for $60?  Most folks agree that there are lots of ambiguities in the 
plans, but people manage to build them just the same.  Even the KR-2 plans 
have more detail, and they are not famous for detail.

They are apparently available from Rand Robinson because the "logic" behindd 
Mike Walling posting them to the web in three different places was because:

 "I'm putting the plans on the net because I'm irritated at how long it took 
the get the plans from Rand Robinson, there was no chance of telephone 
correspondance and I was irritated by the serious lack of quality in the 
plans. "

I was stuck in an airliner when this email came across the list, but as soon 
as I read it, I unsubscribed the guy.  We don't need people like that on 
this list.  He's permanently banned.  I don't like to do that because it 
levels real safety concerns on builders, but in Mike's case, I made an 
exception.  He then signed back on with another address, which took me about 
5 seconds to ascertain that it was him, and unsubscribed that one.  The 
downside for him may be that I now know where he works and his employer's 
email address.  KRnet is now a closed list which will require authorization 
to join, starting Sunday.

I've visited the links he provided in his email, and his comments are 
deplorable.  I can't post what he said, but basically he's deliberately 
encouraging any and all comers to download and spread the plans around. 
Here's what he wrote:

>>I got kicked off of the KRnet.org mailing list
for this torrent.... and I make no apologies. I Figure I'll buy the next set
of plans and post them just as a F--- You<<   (letters replaced by dashes by 
ML)

This guy Mike appears to have a huge chip on his shoulder, and I personally 
would consider him to have emotional problems, or perhaps he's really only 8 
years old.  I've exchanged several emails with him, and he apparently has no 
concept of what "intellectual property" is, although he may be enlightened 
when Jeannette's daughter the attorney contacts him.  Failing that, there's 
always "bad karma"...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com


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