Ed - I don't see a grey area at all - during the AB-experimental
certification process there are no requirements to list speeds of any kind.
The FAA or DAR never asked for that information. You know the Sonex lists
higher speeds than 138 but still contends than when equipped with the 4 cyl
Jab. or VW it's LSA compliant and nobody seems to be bothered by that.
Anyway design top speeds and Vh are two different matters.

Right now E-LSA is for fat ultra lights and that goes away at the end of
Jan. next year. They are still trying to get the standards together for kits
to be registered as an E-LSA, and the way I read it, plans built aircraft
will never qualify as a E-LSA.

My POH and log book entries based on my Phase I testing are the only
documentation needed to show compliance. You have to also keep in mind that
in this case compliance is for my aircraft only not for all other KR-2's.
Remaining an AB-experimental offers more advantages than negatives! Van
registered his RV-12 as an AB-experimental and I suspect when he puts out a
kit it will be as an AB-experimental not an E-LSA.

Rick Human
Houston, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Janssen" <ejans...@chipsnet.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: KR> N202RH sometimes they don't fly right out of the box


> Rick,
>
> It appears, looking at your numbers, that your KR falls within the
> parameters of the definition of a "Light-Sport Aircraft" and therefore
could
> be flown as such by the holder of a Sport Pilot certificate.  The gray
area
> of concern would be the KR design top speed which is greater than 138
mph.Of
> course, it can't be re-registered as an Experimental Light Sport Aircraft
> (ELSA), but must remain as an Amateur Built.  Perhaps your stall speed and
> maximum speed was listed somewhere for the DAR at the time it was
inspected?
> You may know of a DAR that could clear up that point for you.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> Ed Janssen
> mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <rahu...@peoplepc.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:41 AM
> Subject: KR> N202RH sometimes they don't fly right out of the box
>
>
> > So where are we and how does it perform. First all speeds quoted are
> average of multiple GPS readings. At the 2550 redline line we have
measured
> it at 132.5 mph CAS, Climbs at 750 fpm at 1130 lbs., has been flown at the
> max weight of 1150 lbs., Stalls clean at 50.7mph CAS at 1130 lbs. and a CG
> of about 27.8% MAC (range is 16.7 % to 29.2%). This is as close to max
> weight and aft CG as I am willing to go. My test pilots are thoroughly in
> love with N202RH - it has no vices except it wants to float forever, even
> with full flaps, and has made landing challenging- by the way that's a
> change from when it had a nose gear - the nose gear I had at least acted
as
> a speed brake.
> >
> > Based on those numbers and comparing them to the LSA regs - It's my
> opinion the aircraft registered in the Amateur-Built Experimental Aircraft
> category as Human KR-2 (N202RH serial # 7269-66RH) is in compliance and
can
> be operated under those regulations.
>
> > Rick Human
> > Houston, Texas
>
>
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