John, this will be my ABSOLUTE final comment on this but this was offered as 
a technique to go out and practice in VFR conditions with a passenger and 
restricted vision.

BTW, John thanks for your software, love it.

Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive




>From: "John Bouyea" <john...@speakeasy.net>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: "'KRNet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: Re: KR> VFR operations ionto IMC
>Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:35:25 -0800
>
>Dana,
>
>Sorry, I didn't intend to flame your comments.  I understand you are
>offering a technique that works for you.  I know you ARE instrument 
>trained,
>rated, and experienced.  Some (maybe even most) of the people reading this
>mail list do not have your level of training and experience.  My concern is
>that VFR pilots might go away from our discussions with the idea they have 
>a
>trick in their bag to let them escape from poor planning.  (I do flight
>planning as an occupation and have spoken to literally one hundred pilots
>who don't do any pre-flight planning.)
>
>
>
>Randy Powell's comments (referenced below) about getting training echo my
>exact recommendation.  That is my whole point and the only point.
>
>
>
>Your point about running out of gas is the ultimate truth; no matter the
>endurance, we all have to come down eventually.
>
>
>
>My best regards,
>
>John Bouyea
>
>
>
>
>
>[Quoted]
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:08:29 -0500
>
>From: "Dana Overall" <bo12...@hotmail.com>
>
>Subject: Re: KR> VFR operations ionto IMC
>
>To: kr...@mylist.net
>
>
>
> >From: "John Bouyea" <john...@speakeasy.net>
>
> >My thoughts about this topic;
>
> >2. You have the opportunity (right now) to get some instruction BEFORE 
>you
>
> >operate above a solid cloud deck.  Ask the instructor to put you under 
>the
>
> >hood and try what you are reading about attempting a letdown without 
>visual
>
> >reference to the ground.  This will give you an idea of the level of
>
> >difficulty you are considering.
>
>
>
>OK, forget it, didn't mean to mention it.  Doesn't work for me, won't work
>
>for you, too difficult so don't try it.  Just stay up there until you run
>
>out of gas then make a descent on the airplanes terms, not yours.  When 
>will
>
>
>I learn to keep my mouth shut.
>
>
>
>Dana Overall
>
>1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
>
>Richmond, KY i39
>
>RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
>
>O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
>
>http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
>
>http://rvflying.tripod.com <http://rvflying.tripod.com/>
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>--- and ---
>
>
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:54:12 -0500
>
>From: "Randy Powell" <randywpow...@verizon.net>
>
>Subject: Re: KR> VFR operations
>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>
>
>
>All pilots should for their own safety, acquire a few hours of instrument
>
>training,  at least enough to feel confident in controlling the aircraft in
>
>basic maneuvers in clouds.  I do not have, nor plan to go after an
>
>instrument ticket, but the small amount of money I paid for this peace of
>
>mind has already saved my hide once when I did something dumb.   Sooner or
>
>later you will get your money's worth.    My flight instructor would not
>
>sign me off to go for my check ride until I took his advice and took the
>
>training,  even though I insisted I would never use it.   He was right and 
>I
>
>
>WAS WRONG.   I was lucky I had a stubborn instructor.  I owe him !.
>
>
>
>Randy Powell
>
>Wachapreague Va.
>
>randywpow...@verizon.net
>
>
>
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