I just received an e-mail direct from a well respected KR family member who just told me he has had enough with the Net and unsubscribed. It is a shame that we keep losing knowledgeable and respectable folks from this Net. I remember the good days when 90% of the posts made here were quality building and flying KR posts. This is no longer the case. Over the years there have been an group of KR guys who always tried to make this Net a respectable and knowledgeable place to learn how to build a KR. We have begged you guys to stick to KR related material. We have begged you guys to change the subject line to reflect what you are discussing so that a search in the archives will yield the info that you are looking for. We have begged for you guys to cut unnecessary text from your posts to keep the files down. We have begged for you guys to keep personal matters off the Net. You have been asked numerous time to read the KR Netiquette but I seriously doubt that a third of you have ever read it so I am posting it here for you to read. I was going to link you to it but I figured you would not bother to find it. There is so much information posted here on the Net that is not accurate or simply just speculation. Have you guys ever Googled anything to find out the real facts. A prime example would be for PLASMA CUTTING METAL. Google it and you will get the facts, real facts, not some crap that someone speculates he knows will work or not. PLUS that will eliminate the excessive archives on topics which are virtually irrelevant to KR building. Guys, this is not a chat room. If that is what you want to do the get on AOL and set you up a chat room but leave the KR Net to the dedicated builders and pilots who want to make the KR a respectable airplane. Please read the KR Netiquette below and let's quit running off the best of the best.
KRNetiquette We have a few folks who feel compelled to comment on just about every post made, and I can only be thankful that all 600 of us don't do that, or we'd be wading through several thousand emails a day! Please be considerate of your fellow KRNetHeads. A few of us would do well to heed the following advice: 1) Think long and hard before you publicly flame somebody on this list. This list may not be like others you've been on. We don't do that here, period. If you have a personal problem with another lister, you need to address it off the list and spare the rest of us your angst. If you disagree with something somebody else posted, you can disagree in a nice manner without getting all bent out of shape. Just point out your side of the discussion and let others be the judge. Public flaming and superfluous bad language will not be tolerated. 2) When replying to a post, delete everything except one or two key sentences from the previous post. It's really ridiculous to have to search thru 3 or 4 pages of stuff to find down at the bottom where some clown wrote "me too". Carrying all that useless baggage around from previous posts also gives people fits when searching the archives later, as they end up getting 10 hits for the same message. 3) Conversely, at least put SOMETHING in the post to remind us what you're replying to. A post like "yeah, that's how I did mine and it works great" doesn't mean a thing if you don't know what the guy's talking about, so please cut and paste some of what you're replying to above your comments. 4) Carefully consider whether or not you even need to reply to a post. Saying "me too", or "I don't know" doesn't contribute to the thread, it just makes the list more bothersome. If you don't know what you're talking about, maybe you should be listening, rather than talking. There are FEW people who know everything about everything. Try to stick to things you KNOW about, and let others answer the rest. 5) Try to write "keeper" posts if you're the expert on something. Cover the whole issue, answer all possible questions, address both sides of an issue, and make it a post that others will want to save or print out and keep. Those are the gems that we all search for on KRNet. 6) Put your email address in your signature to make emailing others "offnet" easier. If we all had our addresses at the bottom of our posts, it would be far easier to "email direct". If it's blue just click on it, if it's not, cut it and paste it into the "To" box. If throwing your email address out on the internet makes you nervous (and it should), camouflage it a little by replacing the @ symbol with "at", or something similar, so that bot crawlers won't know what to do with it. 7) If you don't have anything substantial to say, please don't post anything. This is a KR list, and as such, really needs to stay focused on KRs, or at least airplanes. With over 600 people on the list, if we all decided to say something every day we'd have a real problem. Ask yourself "do 600 people really need to see this, or are 600 people going to be annoyed by this?" Personally, my time is pretty precious to me, and I hate to waste it reading inane email. And is it something that you could find somewhere else? 8) Don't send enclosed files directly to the list. Either post it to a web site or get someone else to post it so others can see if they want, but don't have to if they don't. Also, enclosures are famous for carrying viruses, which we could all do without. I usually delete messages with enclosures immediately, unless I'm expecting something from that person. I don't have two days to rebuild my computer "for fun". And by all means, arm yourself with an anti-virus program such as Norton Antivirus or McAfee Antivirus. There are even FREE antivirus programs out there. GET ONE! 9) If you have something you want to share, specify that you want replies to go offline. It's nice to say "hey, I've got the holy grail on thingamajigs, anybody want it?", but when 15 people reply online that they want it , it gets kinda painful wading thru all of those posts for nothing. A gentle reminder to "reply offline" and furnishing your email address will be a big help. 10) Do not advertise commercial products to this list. It's OK to let folks know there's a new service or a new business, but point them to web site. We don't need a bunch of advertising here. Personal testimonials as to a product's usefulness are welcome anytime, as long as it's not YOUR product. Advertising and selling KRs or KR parts IS permissible anytime, however. 11) Try not to take things personally. We're all here to help each other. There are usually several ways to take comments. Always try to pick the "nicest" interpretation, rather than trying to read animosity into a post. It's a lot easier to just ignore a snide comment and let it slide. Try to avoid "having the last word". 12) It's OK to interject some personality into emails, just make a contribution while you're at it. I like to let other KRNetters know who I am and what my interests are, but I try to tack that sort of stuff to the bottom of a post in which I've made some sort of contribution to the cause. 13) Keep personal stuff offline. Finding that some other KRNetter is from your neck of the woods isn't a good enough reason to bother us all with your efforts to strike up an acquaintance. Email him direct, rather than to the list. 14) Do not forward "chain mail" or ANYTHING that urges the sender to "send this to everyone in your address book", or "forward to all your friends". These are almost always either hoaxes, viruses, or just plain don't have any place on KRnet. This includes messages dealing with politics, nationalism, or religion. There are plenty of email lists where you can flood your email inbox with warm, touchy-feely messages from the heart. KRNet is NOT going to become one of them! 15) Change the subject if the thread starts to deviate from the original intent. This makes searching the archive much more productive and far less time-consuming for future builders who are in search of information. 16) Please read ALL of your messages before replying to ANY of them. Why? Because much of the time, your reply will have already been answered by somebody else (or lots of people), and your reply may just be redundant, or even worse, already disproved by somebody that knows more about it than you do! 17) Those who violate these suggestions may find themselves wondering why they don't get KRNet mail anymore. I reserve the right to throw anybody overboard that I see fit... Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com
