Fax her the info & include a return phone #. Ken
told me that the receipt # was the plans # for registering
w/ RR, Virg

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:09:08 -0500 D F Lively <riksh...@interl.net>
writes:
> Ron & others:
> 
> I purchased my first set of plans in '76 or '77 from Ken Rand 
> personally when I lived in Irvine CA.  I later exchanged these plans 
> in to pick up revisions in '80 or '81withe him personally for a  
> fee.  Subsequently I lost my reciept and since my plans were 
> purchased before numbers were recorded I felt I might have the 
> problem with documentation as is being discussed here. I contacted 
> Ms. Rand to try and resolve the matter and she retuned my call and 
> we
> discussed the problem thoroughly and she said she would get back to 
> me and she never did.
> 
> I do not know what the problem is other than perhaps Ken to begin 
> with was keeping pretty loose records and so after his death the 
> records were messed up.  I know I had a reciept and it must have 
> been lost through one of my multiple moves so what is one to do in 
> such a case.  I realize that this could look like a fraud on its 
> surface but it is not.
> 
> This is somewhat of a mute issue as I took over a project that has a 
> plans number so I feel that I am legal however I have attemted to 
> contact Ms. Rand to notify her of my aquisition of the project 
> complete with the plans and she has yet to respond.  that was done 
> in March or early April of this year.  Again what is one to do. I 
> have two legitimate sets of plansthe way I see it but I also think 
> an argument can be made that I do not.
> 
> Don Lively
> Burlington IA 52601
>   
>
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> 
> Red ya sure wrote:
> 
> > I am not an expert on copyrights, but there are several in my 
> name, so I do have a bit of knowledge...once you buy the blueprints, 
> they are yours!  If you choose to give them away, cut them up, or 
> share them, thats OK.   It is probably implied, that the blueprints 
> include a license to build one (1) plane.      but      AS LONG AS 
> YOU DO NOT PROFIT FROM THEIR EFFORTS...IT'S PROBABLY LEGAL....Sorry, 
> but morals and ethics are not taken into  consideration.
> > RED
> >
> > Ron Freiberger <ronandmar...@earthlink.net> wrote: What part of 
> "Thou shalt not steal" seems mysterious to you?
> >
> > Ron Freiberger
> >
> > mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink....@mylist.net
> > [mailto:krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink....@mylist.net] On 
> Behalf
> > Of Kenhenderson
> > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:38 AM
> > To: KRnet
> > Subject: KR> Plans
> >
> > Thanks to all who replied to my first post. I have several dumb
> > questions to ask about plans. I have 2 sets, 1 from 1975 with a 
> serial #
> > and 1 from 1984 with no number. It has been advised that I 
> contact
> > Jeanette Rand and have my name transferred to the numbered plans. 
> Do you
> > have to have a set of plans registered to you in order to build a 
> legal,
> > registered airplane? What prevents a person from copying a set of 
> plans
> > and using them for construction? Ethics perhaps? Would a new set 
> of
> > plans have noticeable improvements over the ones I have and would 
> it be
> > advantageous to order said plans? Please answer on or off net to 
> my
> > e-mail address. Still looking for a fixed main gear to replace 
> the
> > retracts. Thanks, Ken
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> >  RED
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
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Miami ,Fl

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