Thats what I found, the time to make and  research and perfect a method 
using foam, the loss and cost of material from having a few failures, it was 
quicker and cheaper I concluded to do things the old fashioned way, I also 
at that time did not have a reliable source of foam, I found if I lied, the 
cost of foam dropped by half, ( told them I was a builder and wanted the 
foam to insulate a hot water heater ). I could have built the deck much 
lighter but I used 5/8 spruce longerons, when 3/8 would be good enough, but 
its just to much hassle cutting up the wood, or sourcing it locally, and the 
two front frames are quite heavy spruce, to act as a roll over cage, when a 
laminated frame would be stronger and lighter.
    I wanted to use 2,5 millimeter GL2 birch  5 ply, but its too much 
headache getting the stuff here, I tried soaking some of this material in 
water, and after a few hours it bent very easily, and would have made a very 
very strong skin, not sure what the soaking would have done to its 
engineering properties, but it seemed to dry out with no ill effects, 
eventually settled on 2 millimeter 3 ply hoop pine available locally for 
about $60 for a   8ft x 4ft sheet. Not the optimum choice strength wise, but 
it is a certified engineering material, and it seems to do the job ok.



                                Chris Johnston

                                North Richmond

                                Australia..



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donald Reid" <donr...@peoplepc.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Turtle deck


> At 09:13 AM 6/29/2006, you wrote:
>>     I have just finished the basic structure for the turtle deck
>> from wood, it seems pretty strong, I can almost stand on it but am
>> not game to try, it weighs about 4 lbs, with the ply skin still to
>> be fitted, the sheet of ply for the skin weighs 5 lbs and I will
>> use about 2/3 of the sheet, so all up the turtle deck from wood
>> will weigh about 7 lbs, my question is, how does this compare
>> weight wise to a composite structure?
>
> I made a female mold and did a layup with three plies of light weight
> glass with foam and glass "ribs" at each bay location.  It probably
> weighed a little less but it was significantly more work.
>
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