No Kidding? I carry my laptop on trips because it is easier for me to
flight plan.  I think the software just takes a learning curve.  Once
you learn the tricks it is actually pretty fast and easy.  The "Find an
Airport" button can be confusion because depending on which screen you
are on, you either have to enter the 3 or 4 digit identifier or airport
name.  Unless I'm sure, I always use airport name and select from the
list. I'll jump to that airport to see the area and determine what
facilities are available. This is mainly for long trips. Unless I know
where I intend on making my stops, I'll just plot the course direct and
then view the entire route. That way I can see if there are any
restricted areas or MOAs. The ruberbanding feature allows you to drag
and drop your course line to wherever you want. If you get it in the
approximate location of an airport on your route and want to make it a
waypoint, just double click on the airport and hit the button that makes
it a waypoint.  Most of the time it eliminated the user way point
created with the drag and drop.  If not, you can go into the flight plan
window and delete that leg.

I know it sounds like a lot but it is actually pretty fast once you
learn it. I think it is much more versatile than the other units out
there but is definitely not the easiest to use.

Steve Glover
KR-2 N902G
AJO, Ca
<kr...@cox.net>



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Subject: Re: Re: KR> GPS


Thanks, I wish I had known all that before spending $600 on the system.
I already had a PDA, so figured I would get the best bang for the buck.
I am also very disgusted with their flight planning software that runs
on the desktop.
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 2005/11/18 Fri AM 06:54:31 CST
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Subject: Re: KR> GPS

Dan Heath wrote:

> Before you decide what to get, you should check out this one. I am 
> only posting this for you to have another option. 
> http://anywheremap.com/

AnywhereMap is famous for being the cat's meow for handheld PDAs, and
for 
that purpose, I'm sure it's great.  But in a PDA you have a teeny little

screen that's hard to see (but it's far better than nothing), so
AnywhereMap 
is fairly low resolution.  For example, due to limited memory of PDAs,
the 
database has no rivers, only big lakes, and cities are rather blocky,
with 
only major highways shown.

They now have what they call AnywhereMap XP, designed for running on 
notebooks, tablets, and laptops, which I ASSumed was a higher resolution

version for Windows based computers.  While the display is somewhat
higher 
resolution, it uses the same low res database, so you get no rivers.  I 
noticed this in about 5 seconds as I looked for Huntsville on their US
map. 
I had a hard time finding it because the Tennessee river was missing!
So I 
punched in M38, my home airport, and it said "not in database".  Now
that 
worries me.  What if you're flying along and your crankshaft breaks, and
you 
push the "nearest airport" button, and the one right under you doesn't 
happen to be in the database?  Not a good thing.  And it turns out that
many 
of the features of the PDA version aren't yet implemented in the XP
version, 
and the "help" files just plain don't work. Given that the instruction 
manual is about 10 pages long, help files would be helpful!   I read 
complaints on the web that the stuff wasn't ready for prime time, but
since 
they were a year or so old, I figured it was fixed by now.  It's not.

Couple that with the fact that they sold me a Haicom GPS that you could
buy 
for $100 anywhere else, for $250 (it had an AnywhereMap sticker stuck to
the 
other side, which made it more valuable, I guess), and I was pretty 
disgusted with my purchase.  It went back in the box and back to them
two 
weeks ago, and I'm still waiting for them to credit my credit card
account.

This stuff is fine for PDA's (so I'm told), but don't think you'll be
happy 
with the laptop version.

I haven't mentioned what I'm using yet, because I haven't fully tested
it 
and can't swear by it, but I'll give a full report when I do.  Basically

it's a TPad 800 remote display,  which is daylight readable, and 6" wide
by 
9" tall, mounted to the panel, dead center and right in front of my
face. 
It's so tall it only misses the canopy by half an inch.  It's hooked to
my 
laptop, which is running Flightprep's "Chart Case" (supported by KRnet's
own 
John Bouyeau), which is pretty awsome stuff.  You have various modes of 
moving map, including overlayed on top of the current sectional.  All of

this is connected to a $100 Garmin 18 USB GPS plugged into the laptop,
which 
came with free street mapping GPS software, so I can also use the laptop
in 
the car on trips.  The beauty of this system is that it cost me $1400
(no, 
that's not the beautiful part), but that when it becomes obsolete, I
don't 
have to go out and buy another $2500 GPS box, I just buy new software.
But 
ChartCase has regular updates, so that's not going to happen anytime
soon. 
I basically have a full powered computer sitting on my panel.  I carry a

laptop anyway to collect EIS (Engine Information System) data anyway, so
I 
might as well use it.  Next improvement will be to replace the laptop
with a 
"car PC", a little box that's about $300, and is a full-featured PC set
up 
for 12V.  I'll have to buy an "industrial hard drive" that is altitude 
compensated (hard drives tend to crash over 10,000'), which will drive
the 
price to $600, but it's smaller and more rugged than the laptop, and can
be 
permanently mounted in the plane.  So I've got $2500 in a killer huge
screen 
color  GPS setup, that's not going obsolete anytime soon, a far better
value 
for my money than a Garmin 396.  Oh, and it does weather and terrain too

(although I'm not up for the $30 a month WX weather subscription yet).
Not 
as good a price as what Mark Jones has (that's hard to beat), but with 
better functionality and readability (although admittedly not 25x more 
functionality or readability!).

Another alternative is a tablet PC.  There are a couple (more on that
later) 
that are daylight readable, but  they are just plain bigger than will
fit on 
my panel.  I'll do a full report on this system when I have it up and 
running, but so far, the flight planning and GPS stuff works great!

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net 


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