The newest Subaru engine that they are using is an aircraft engine, it was 
designed for this purpose the plane just did not take off. They then put it 
in a car.

Dan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott William" <scot...@yahoo.com>
To: <brokerpilot9...@earthlink.net>; "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Eggenfellner engines


> Can I simplify this?
>
> Auto engines are engineered to spend 80% of thier life
> at 20% throttle.
>
>
> Airplane engines are engineered to spend 80% of thier
> life at 85% throttle.
>
>
> See the difference?
>
> Now, some auto engines have inherent design
> charachteristics that bode them well in airplanes. The
> Corvair is one that is superb. As mentioned below, the
> 2100 VW with a good forged steel crank is a good
> choice, as is the V6 GM motor.
>
> As for all the others.....look how they perform in
> boats. They don't last long because of the large power
> requirements on them. Hence, you'll never see a two
> bolt main Chevy 350 in a boat. Or a Subaru, for that
> matter.
>
>
> Scott
>
> --- Colin Rainey <brokerpilot9...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Bob Lester at one time ran a Subaru engine before
>> changing over to a Corvair. Problems with the
>> crankshafts due to the high rpms necessary to
>> produce enough power.  Read the Auto Mathbook for
>> some numbers of projected life expectancy when
>> engines are subjected to higher and higher rpms.
>> The Chevy 350 is 3.48 inches in stroke and will
>> reach a piston speed that at 6500 rpms will stress
>> the crank 4 times what it is at 5500 rpms per the
>> author of the book.  Yet by de-stroking that same
>> engine as in the Indy cars, it can be revved to
>> 11,500 and reach the same piston speeds as 6000
>> rpms, bringing the same stress to the crank.  You
>> must do the same things to your chosen engine, OR
>> use an engine that develops more HP than you need,
>> so that your rpms can be maintained at a reasonable
>> level for longevity.  The chosen engine needs to
>> have a broad power band where torque is good where
>> you plan to cruise.  Peak Hp does not matter if you
>> cannot stay there for long durations. Remember about
>> takeoffs, climbs while in cruise flight. etc...
>>
>> With the complexity with running a liquid cooled
>> auto engine added to an already complex task of
>> setting up an engine and then matching a prop to it,
>> the idea of getting reliable information concerning
>> PSRUs and prop matches is nothing short of daunting.
>>  The Subarus are reputed to produce X amount of HP
>> but I was not impressed with their presentation nor
>> information, or lack there of at Sun n Fun, from the
>> Eggenfellner group.  They seemed full of hipe but
>> would not talk real world knowledge of their
>> products.  Like REAL hours of use instead of
>> projected TBO. Their full rated HP falls WAY off
>> when throttled back for economy cruise. For all the
>> added extras in complexity and weight, you are
>> better off with a good 2180 VW or Corvair 2.7L.  The
>> three best auto engines I have researched that are
>> successful conversions, being used extensively, with
>> LOTS of information available are: 1) the VW 2180;
>> 2) the Corvair 2.7L ; 3) the 4.3V6 GM.  By far these
>> engines have way over the numbers of flying
>> conversions that stay in the planes and the owners
>> express satisfaction with their performance.  The
>> others have smaller numbers, and have short TBOs
>> like the 2 cycle Rotax family.
>>
>> IMHO I would recommend for our birds, stick with the
>> proven power plants and you will fly sooner, be
>> happier, spend less money, and perform better than
>> these other fancy boat anchors. (Ok maybe not boat
>> anchor, but definitely tie down anchors ).
>>
>>
>> Colin Rainey
>> brokerpilot9...@earthlink.net
>> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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