Thanks for the additional info.

I fly giders and it is possible to initiate a spin
during a stall by quickly deflecting the ailerons and
when flying any new plane considerable caution should
be excersized until the flight envelop has been
properly explored in a structured systematic way.

Denny ... 

--- Colin & Bev Rainey <crain...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> Netters
> It is a common mis-conception that you cannot use
> ailerons when either practicing stalls or when
> actually experiencing stalls.  Young CFI's typically
> make such a big deal about this that pilots
> mis-understand the warning that goes along with the
> statement watch how much aileron you use when
> stalling.  The important thing to remember is to
> always stay COORDINATED. You can use full aileron
> deflection in any properly designed aircraft and
> will NOT induce a spin, because coordinated flight
> will insure both wings still stall equally. It is
> when you are uncoordinated, AND you apply
> significant aileron input that one wing becomes more
> stalled and begins the rotation of the incipient or
> beginning part of the spin.  As Mark Jones stated
> when the aircraft begins to try and rotate, applying
> opposite rudder first and judicious aileron will
> correct the situation just fine. A perfect stall
> execution except without being coordinated will
> always end in some kind of attempt of the plane to
> begin rotating due to this uncoordination.  Any
> pilot going through primary training right now will
> note that in the new Private Pilot PTS the applicant
> is required to demonstrate proper stall recoveries
> from power on stalls in turns up to 20 degrees. 
> These are found by the student to be routine during
> training due to the fact that if he/she stays
> coordinated, both wings stall the same, and the
> aircraft drops its nose level, and a normal recovery
> is experienced.  There is good reason we are
> training for these stalls now. Takeoff departure leg
> to crosswind, and crosswind to downwind turning
> stalls are on the rise in General Aviation, and are
> very dangerous due to the low altitude associated
> with their recovery.
> 
> All KR pilots should become GRADUALLY very familiar
> with the stall characteristics of their particular
> KR's in all weight and configurations (with and
> without flaps etc...) in order to be as safe as
> possible. Stall recognition should also be practiced
> along with the recovery without looking at the
> panel, but just recognizing it by the feel of the
> flight controls, and the view of the outside flight
> sight picture. The pattern at some airports can get
> very busy and your ability to know your airplane
> from the outside view will keep your head outside
> where the danger is and not inside fixed on the
> panel.
> 
> Colin
> KSFB
> Sanford, FL
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