ok has anyone done it , they sound good sounds a lot safer to me with them ,i will even sacrifice some spped to get the stall down and quicker t/o
++++++++++++++++ >From my experiments (PA32) you don't need to sacrifice anything. VG's can help achieve different things, do enough reading and decide what your requirement is. I get mine from: http://www.mywebco.com/cci/ Good product and the lowest price. Take care Steve J