Great to hear that you are getting ready to haule that time sucker to the
airport.
Jim
sanford, Fl
On Sat, 14 May 2005 21:51:55 -0500 "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
writes:
> Kevin Jarvis wrote:
>
> > So why do we stick with an antiquated email/digest system when we
> can
> > have a full blown multi-subject, multi-faceted forum.
>
> I did consider the Wings Forum when Sean first invited me to
> moderate it.
> In fact I WAS the moderator for a month or two. But there were
> about 3
> posts during that time, and I found that I never even checked it,
> and
> certainly didn't do any moderation.
>
> > At first, Mark Langford sounded like he was very interested in
> slowly
> migrating
> > both the KR and Corvair lists to the forums, but at some point it
> appears
> that
> > he changed his mind. It was right about the time William Wynne
> left the
> > Corvaircraft list.
>
> I wouldn't say that I was ever "very interested". I did it
> reluctantly on a
> trial basis, and after the trial I decided not to do it. Part of
> the reason
> was that I'd asked 7 of KRnets oldest (and most internet savy) users
> what
> they thought about it. Their decision was unanimous AGAINST
> changing over
> to it. Part of the reason is that what we have works, and like
> Michael
> Gaskin says, archiving data would no longer be in my hands. As it
> is right
> now, I have every email ever sent to KRnet sitting on my hard drive
> and
> burned to DVD, and John Bouyea has another copy of it in his
> archive. I
> know what it means to have an internet company that you've trusted
> all your
> data to disappear one day. I saw it happen to a photo forum that I
> was on
> at one time. The users had all this time involved in setting up
> photo
> galleries, and one day they were gone, with no warning at all. And
> I don't
> see a problem with the KRnet archive search engine located at
> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp . It does everything I
> need for
> it to do, and instantly.
>
> Another reason given by the seven was that there are a lot of folks
> on KRnet
> who have a hard time even reading and replying to email. Swapping
> to a new
> kind of forum would derail a large percentage of KRnet members until
> they
> could figure out what was going on. It just seemed needless. One
> other
> area that I wonder about is advertising and email address
> harvesting. I
> can't see somebody going to the kind of trouble Sean is investing
> without
> expecting to cash in someday somehow. I may be completely wrong
> about that,
> but I like the advertising free, no-cookies-required, "private"
> KRnet email
> list, and I want it to stay that way. I've seen way too many of
> these sorts
> of things start out as user interest groups, but eventually turn
> into paid
> mouthpieces for vendors and manufacturers. Not gonna happen to
> KRnet.
>
> What finally did me in was when Sean sent a post to KRnet saying
> something
> like "I have a question for you guys, but you'll have to check the
> WingsForum to see it". That cooked my goose, because he could have
> just as
> easily posted it to KRnet, but deliberately sent it to KRnet (or
> maybe it
> was CorvAircraft) to focus attention on the Wings Forum. I'd
> already
> decided that it made no sense to swap over at that point anyway, so
> I asked
> him to take me off the moderator list. And it simply doesn't make
> sense to
> have several different KR forums for everybody to check. We're all
> right
> here, and people know where to come to get KR building information.
>
> > As for the naysayers, and Mark L. has said that a majority of
> users here
> do not want a change, go to >Wingsforum, register and then snoop
> around.
>
> Go right ahead. I've been there, done that, didn't see anything all
> that
> great about it that we haven't already worked around.
>
> > Yes Mark, I understand that you have built these lists from the
> git-go,
> that they are YOUR babies and I want nothing less than you and the
> others
> experts here to step up and moderate these details, but as for
> email/digest
> is passé and it's time to upgrade. <
>
> I didn't build either one of these lists from the git-go, although I
> was on
> them both from almost their inceptions. I eventually took them both
> over
> when the previous list-owners got tired of doing it (and I wasn't
> real
> thrilled about how they were being run anyway). Over the years I've
> come to
> the conclusion that I care too much about KRnet and CorvAircraft to
> let
> anybody else run either one of them. I like to be able to set the
> tone and
> keep things from getting out of hand. And on three occasions so
> far, I've
> thrown people off permanently for flagrantly violating the rules. I
> don't
> brag about being the owner, I just do the job. This particular
> incarnation
> of the list is a little clunky, but it does work. KRnet pays for
> itself
> out of voluntary contributions every few years (can't say the same
> for
> CorvAircraft though).
>
> Bottom line is that anybody that wants to go to the Wings Forum is
> welcome
> to it, or start you own KRnet. Matronix has one too, and it had
> about 3
> posts on it last time I checked. But I'll still be right here in
> the dark
> ages of email lists. And what's the difference in me getting hit
> by a
> truck and Sean getting hit by a truck? End of discussion, as far as
> I'm
> concerned. Sorry, but I've got an airplane to get ready to haul to
> the
> airport...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
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