Hi Larry,

Sorry to hear of your fire. I have always intended to have a fire extinguisher, 
but have not bought it yet, doing that today.

For all of my firewall forward fibre glassing I added a fire retardant to the 
mix.  
Probably only used about half a cup for the whole job.
It is a white powder that is added to the resin mix, I don't know if it works 
but I'll build a test piece and burn it when I next modify my cowling (in the 
next month or two).

Regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
RAA 19-3873 

k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm 



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: larry flesner 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:37 AM
  Subject: KR> mistakes / new story-long




  This seems to be "sharing and learning from others mistakes" weekend
  so I'll share with you a few exciting moments I had this morning as
  13 years of building and lots of fun flying flashed before my eyes !!!!

  After diver dumping (hauling skydivers) all day yesterday in a tired
  C182 I was looking forward to some KR time today.  I was off to the
  airport at 7:30AM with blue skies and light winds.  I rolled the trailer
  out of the way, rolled out the Rans S-6 a friend of mine has in the
  hangar, and rolled out the KR.  With everything put back in
  place and a quick preflight, I was ready for another YEE HAA kind
  of day.  

  A quick shot of prime and a pull on the starter handle had the blades
  rotating.  Wouldn't fire a lick.  D#m*, must have flooded it so I kept
  the starter engaged and went to full throttle to try to clear the 
  induction system.  Still didn't hit a single time.  O.K., let it set
  for a minute or two and let the gas evaporate.  Tried it again and
  it coughed to life, ran maybe 10 seconds, stumbled and died.

  HEY, IS THAT SMOKE ROLLING OUT OF THE COWL !!  SH*#,
  NOW WHAT DO I DO, KEEP CRANKING OR RUN FOR MY
  LIFE.  I shut off the fuel and jumped out.  As I reached the front
  of the KR I spotted a two inch rolling flame on the bottom of the
  cowl with melting, burning, dripping paint and what I learned 
  later was melting, burning epoxy!!!!!

  DUMB MISTAKE #1 :  I had flooded the engine.  Jeff Scott told
  me, and maybe the net, on at least one occasion that the 0-200
  is an easy starter without prime.  I never listened and have on
  several occasions flooded the engine without any problems.

  DUMB MISTAKE #2 :  No fire extinguisher handy.  I quickly
  remembered the two gallon weed sprayer setting in the hangar
  that I use to wash down the engine.  Hoping it had some water
  in it I made two or three 20 foot leaps to the hangar and back.
  It was nearly full !!!!  I know you're not supposed to spray water
  on a fuel fire but hey, MY BABY WAS BURNING !!!!  The first
  shot of water quickly extinguished the burning cowl on the 
  outside so I stuck the nozzle in the access hole for the oil
  quickdrain, pumped like hell on the sprayer and directed the
  nozzle in every direction I could inside the cowl.  It probably
  only took 10 seconds to extinguish the flame but I think I
  pumped the sprayer half empty.  

  Thinking I had the fire out I ran to the truck to get my battery 
  powered drill and bit to remove the cowl.  Not knowing what
  shape the battery was in I grabbed the extra battery also.
  Turns out they were both nearly run down but between the
  two of them I removed the cowl.  Soot everywhere but no
  damage at all that I could detect to the engine.  The paint
  was not even scorched on the carb heat box.  The cowl was
  another issue.  An area about twice the size of your hand 
  and fingers was TRASHED !  The epoxy had burned completely 
  out of the glass cloth and you could see daylight right through 
  the weave in several areas.  

  I have no clue as to what ignited the fire.  I'm sure I flooded the
  engine and supplied the fuel but there was no hint of a backfire
  or anything that would hint of trouble.

  Lesson 1:  Raw fuel outside the induction system is BAD NEWS!
  I may remove my primer and will use a different starting procedure
  from now on.  The engine will be cranking before I induce any fuel
  into the system by either cracking or pumping the throttle.

  Lesson 2: I intend to purchase a small fire extinguisher and carry
  it in the KR.

  Lesson 3:  Resin and paint can continue to burn even after the 
  fuel (gas) has burned off.  When I repair the cowl next week I
  intend to build in a small stainless or aluminum catch basin
  under the carb that will route any fuel leakage to the access
  hole for the oil quickdrain rather then let it possibly pool in
  the cowl.  Being a taildragger it will have a nice natural incline.
  If a fire does develop, it will keep the flames out of contact with 
  the resin and what little fuel stays on the metal will hopefully 
  burn off quickly.  

  1000+ hours and this was my first experiance with an engine
  fire.  Hopefully it will be my last !  I'm sure others may see 
  other lessons to be learned here and if so, good.  As for 
  me, I'M ONE LUCKY DUDE !!!  My "Little Phoenix" will
  rise from the ashes to fly again !!!

  YEEEEEEEEE  HAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!

  Larry Flesner




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