Thanks, Mark. 28 degrees is the figure I remembered from the original 
builder, who had built the engine at sea level (Port Elisabeth, South 
Africa). Although that was with the 2.0 liter, and the new one is a 2.4. 
It is currently set at 25 degrees, which was fine for Johannesburg.

Something funny, though. My engine has solid state dual electronic 
ignition, taken from 1980's Japanese motorcycles. This type of ignition 
has sort of magnetic pickups, that are rigged to the crankshaft. There are 
two pickups, opposed by 180 degree; each one fires once every crankshaft 
revolution, and triggers one coil; the coil has two output wires, and 
fires the two opposed cylinders simultaneously
In order to be able to start the engine,  the system also has a 
mechanical, centrifugal advance / retard compensation mechanism. Once the 
engine turns, the centrifugal force fights against a spring, and the 
advance comes back to normal. I love that ignition system, because it is 
so reliable (solid state), so simple to install, so simple to set (just 
turn the support plate, and so affordable ( scrap from old motorcycles 
comes very, very cheap).

The only construction difficulty was to make the ignition dual redundant 
(which is not really required, anyway). For that, a second set of magnetic 
pickups is installed. In my case, this second set is installed at the 
propeller end of the crankshaft. A mere grubscrew is used as the magnetic 
mass.

Now, when we installed the new engine in Johannesburg, we took great care 
to synchronize the front and rear ignition as well as possible. The result 
was great. You could hardly hear the difference between front and rear 
ignition. So, when I started the engine here in France, I was puzzled to 
see that there now was a big difference in noise and RPM. I thought that, 
somehow, one ignition system had moved.

Until I realized that one ignition uses small diameter spark plugs. This 
did not make a noticeable difference before, because the mixture was very 
lean...

Serge Vidal
KR2 ZS-WEC
Paris, France






"Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>

Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net
2005-01-07 03:42
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        Pour :  "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
        cc :    (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM)
        Objet : Re: KR> Timing for a VW engine



> I have a 2.4 liter VW engine, Great Plains type. I have to re-time my
> custom-made electronic ignition. The reason is that I set up the engine
> first time in Johannesburg, altitude 5300', but the aircraft is now in
> Orleans, altitude 300' or so.

I haven't seen an answer to this, so mine may be all you get.  I'd set it 
to
28 degrees of total advance at wide open throttle, or above the RPM at 
which
it stops advancing.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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