This illustrates what I am trying to say, obviously without success. In the
Seminole's case the flap strength is a significant factor. In a KR we don't
know, therefore to fly above grossly above gross is risky IMHO especially if
turbulence is encountered. I think a lot of KR owners fly above gross to
some extent but I'd be interested in hearing from any who have gone to
1300lbs...any takers!!

The Martindale Family
29 Jane Circuit
TOORMINA NSW 2452
AUSTRALIA

phone: 61 2 66584767
email: johnj...@chc.net.au
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" <crain...@cfl.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 5:59 AM
Subject: KR> Seminole


> John
> Pickup a Piper Seminole Operating Manual and you will find that max
operating G loading is 3.8 positive flaps up &  2.0 positive flaps down and
0 negative.  Section 2 in the Limitations Section.  All certified aircraft
have them published there.
>
> If you go over the published weights you then do what Steve Jacobs
illustrated and calculate the new limitations, AND then expect to test for
ALL new speeds due to the changes that will occur to them due to the higher
weight.
>
> Colin & Bev Rainey
> KR2(td) N96TA
> Sanford, FL
> crain...@cfl.rr.com
> http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html
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