Did you get there in time for Mark Langfords forum on KR's?I got a lot of questions answered staying around after the forum and taking with some of the guys.As for the lack of KR aircraft,it would have been nice to see a few.The next best thing was to drive to Mark Jones house up the road and see his.Even got to set in it while it was running,love that corvair.Now the wife is a little ticked off,I told her atleast one night a week off from building on the house for KR work.You have to start gaining somewhere.
Bob Glidden KR2S N181FW Corvair ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolfgang Decker" <wdec...@cox.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 11:45 PM Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh Attendance - Disappointing > Folks, > > I just got back from Oshkosh, it's 12:30 in the morning. I was extremely > disappointed to miss the only KR-2 that was there. I was really hoping to > get some input before I finally start on my project. > > I know, I will get a hundred responses telling me I should come to the > gathering. I don't know about you guys, but my vacation days are rather > limited, and I have a family that appreciates it if I spend them with them. > I go to Oshkosh to get the maxiumum impression on all the planes that are > out there, and to pick up on other building techniques as well. I also go > because I usually go with friends from the area, and they are not very > interested in going to a type restricted meeting. My friends however were > asking me about the apparent absence of KR planes. The only one we saw was > the KR-1 on display in the FAA building. > > Looking at the many complains that are on the net about not enough poeple > picking up the KR plans I really wonder what you are asking for. I don't > think that you can expect a larger crowd to appreciate this plane, if you > show it at "KR-only" gatherings. I don't know about the history with KR's > and the EAA, I joined in 1996, and frankly, if I had not picked up last the > last edition of Kitplanes Magazine that featured all the kit and plans build > aircraft, i wouldn't even know about the existence of the KR. The KR-2 is a > heck of a deal, and I bet a lot more enthusiasts would pick up the plans for > it. I looked at many kits out there, but there is hardly anything below $ > 20K to start with, and some can build 2 KR-2's with that money. > > I just had to vent this out. Go ahead, flame me, I am off to my bed now > anyway. > > Wolfgang > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of robert glidden > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 6:45 PM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh Attendance > > > Mark > Just got home from osh today about 3:30.Was great finally meeting you and > Mark L. and Rich.Was super finally getting to set in a KR especially while > it was ruuuuuuuning.Sorry my key was "missing out." Just kidding the project > looks great looking forward to seeing everyone at the > gathering.................Bob Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com> > To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:58 AM > Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh Attendance > > > > Ed, > > By golly it is only 55 days. I bet Stephen didn't know that. :-) > > > > Mark Jones > > Mueller Sales Corporation > > Ph: 262-781-5310 > > Fax:262-781-4130 > > E-mail: mjo...@muellersales.com > > Web: www.muellersales.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ejans...@chipsnet.com [mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com] > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:47 AM > > To: KRnet > > Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh Attendance > > > > I echo what Jim says about KR attendance at OSH. I think it's due to a > > number of factors rather than just a single one, such as Herb's accident. > > As far as the accident, I think I remember that the weather was pretty hot > > that day and there was quite a long line of airplanes and a long wait for > > guys to get in the air. I remember seeing Herb and a couple others > standing > > outside next to their planes on the taxi way. So, it's possible that he > was > > not feeling very well at the time. > > > > Also, it's been said that many KR builders are pretty hard working > > individuals and it may be difficult for some to take off work to attend. > > Like the Pietenpol clan and other type fly-ins, the KR group really enjoy > > their own gathering - many, even more than Oshkosh. It's often a matter > of > > choice. > > > > Let's all hope for good weather. This Gathering at Mt. Vernon should be a > > fun one, for sure. Again, how many days left, Mark? :o) > > > > Ed Janssen > > mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Faughn" <jfau...@socket.net> > > To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 7:50 AM > > Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh Attendance > > > > > > > This is pretty much what happened although it leaves out the > > > conversations I had with the EAA months previous that set up a KR only > > > flyby. We even had conversations about a possible missing man formation > > > to honor Ken. When we arrived at Oshkosh were not on the schedule. I did > > > a lot of talking and at the last minute in place of one of the mornings > > > general flybys we were told we could fly which really did make it a last > > > minute thing. Whether this did or didn't have anything to do with Herb, > > > we will never know. However, I still carry this with me because I'm also > > > the one who set everything up and witnessed the crash. I can say that it > > > did put a bad taste in everyone's mouth and none of us went back until > > > 97 when I called a number of the pilots and said let's put it behind us > > > and go again. It was tough to fly in that year. Of course everyone knows > > > we did the same thing in 2002 and several of us went last year too. > > > Quite frankly, I have lots of fun at Oshkosh but it is just a matter of > > > time off and choosing priorities. I make it an absolute priority for the > > > KR Gathering. > > > > > > Today, I think it is more an issue that there isn't a promotion for the > > > KR at Oshkosh, other than what Mark and I have done. I believe that > > > people want to be part of something and if you go to Oshkosh, what are > > > you part of with the KR? Who do you talk to and ask questions of? If you > > > go to the Gathering, you are definitely part of a great event and you > > > can talk to "like minded people." These are people who love aviation, > > > want a responsive airplane and love the idea of being able to own an > > > affordable aircraft. > > > > > > Is there truth that we were shunned? I don't know, there is truth that > > > they promised me certain things then didn't schedule it and had to rush > > > around to deliver something that wasn't what we were promised. Do we > > > carry a grudge? I've put it behind me and I think other issues are more > > > prominent today for KR people as outlined above. Will I go back? If I'm > > > still flying in 2007, you bet I'll be there and try to organize the 35th > > > anniversary. > > > > > > See you at the Gathering. > > > > > > Jim Faughn > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: krnet-bounces+jfaughn=socket....@mylist.net > > > [mailto:krnet-bounces+jfaughn=socket....@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dan > > > Heath > > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 6:55 AM > > > To: kr...@mylist.net > > > Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh Attendance > > > > > > RE: I've been around KR's for a lot of years and hear this every > > > Oshkosh year. What I have never heard are the particulars. Was the KR > > > actually slighted or was it just perceived? Dan, do you know the > > > issues? > > > > > > I was there that year. Bob Muse and I tried to get out of Atlanta, but > > > the weather formed a solid wall from around Chatanooga, so I flew back > > > home and got in the car and drove to be at the dinner for the 20th > > > anniversary. > > > There was a fly by planned and the KRs were not told untill the last > > > minute that they were to go. They were being squeezed in, between all > > > the big money planes. > > > > > > We got there in time to hear the announcement that Herb Bull, the person > > > who did the painting for Jeanette, had crashed of a heart attack during > > > the fly by. He had to haul his plane in a hurry to get it to where they > > > had to take off. Maybe he knew he should not fly or not. Maybe all the > > > extra induced stress because the EAA forgot where there roots are, > > > brought it on, who knows. > > > > > > The bottom line, as I understood it at the time, is that the EAA was too > > > busy showing off the big money planes, to allow the KR to participate in > > > an organized fly by as was planned by the KR people. > > > > > > This in NOT an excuse, and, on my life's list of things to do, is still > > > to fly my own plane to Oshkosh. I will fly this plane to Oshkosh and > > > every other place that I can. > > > > > > Marty and Dan Diehl were there along with a lot of the other old timers. > > > I don't know how many KRs were there, but I do know that they all were > > > very dissappointed in the EAA and that has stuck with me for over 10 > > > years and until EAA does something to show that they remember where they > > > came from, it will never go away. > > > > > > If you want to see KRs come to the Gathering. As many as can get there, > > > get there. That should tell you something. > > > > > > > > > "There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and > > > the time for building has long since expired." See you in Mt. Vernon - > > > 2004 - KR Gathering http://KRGathering.org See N64KR at > > > http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. 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