All glider pilots have to do spin training (in Australia anyway) because thermalling is done in tight, slow turns, perfect spin conditions. I would suggest that getting spin training in a glider is more economical (it is here, glider $30/hr plus launch fees), every landing is a forced landing and when doing cross country flights you learn to read the air currents and the ground features that produce lift and sink.
I would do at least 1 spin in 90% of all flights in a glider and only 10% of those would be on purpose. Let me put that in to better context, the best lift in a thermal is near it's centre, to get best climb out of a glider thats where I want to be. Therefore angle of bank arround 45 degrees, speed down to stall, fly with top rudder to side slip the aircraft marginally into the centre of the turn (this makes the fuslage create lift), now hit a little air pocket which changes you AoA and spinning you are. It is happens so often now that I barely loose 50ft and less than 1/4 turn in the spin. In some of the aircraft I catch the spin way before it happens as they mush before stalling. regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 k...@bigpond.com http://users.tpg.com.au/barryk/KR2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Freiberger To: KRnet Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 7:08 AM Subject: RE: KR> The 'killer turn' Maybe an A of A indicator that has a warning device that is a big fist that comes out of the panel and smacks us between the eyes to get our attention is the answer. :-) Larry Flesner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Perfect answer Larry; where can I get one? Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html