Larry and netters,

One discrepancy: If a true descent is being achieved the cross controlled stall 
will not occur at all as you have explained in your post.  The stall situation 
occurs as a buildup of mistaken choices that an inexperienced pilot makes while 
close to the ground.  The base to final turn is late, so we increase bank angle 
to try and rollout lined up, and we add significant rudder to stay coordinated. 
 This is not a problem yet.  But the aircraft tries to increase the angle of 
bank more due to the over banking tendency of a steep turn, so we correct this 
just like in our flight training by OPPOSITE aileron, and now we are cross 
controlled.  This still would not be a bad problem except that our descent rate 
has nearly doubled due to the lost lift in the vertical being applied to the 
high angle of bank.  When we apply back pressure to attempt to arrest the 
excessive rate of descent, we have laid all the ground work for a stall spin 
close to the ground that is usually un-recoverable.  All can be avoided if we 
just allow the aircraft to over shoot with normal maneuvers , and either go 
around, or make adjustments upon rollout if the runway is long enough.  Cross 
controlled by itself is not going to cause a stall/spin.  Look at when we 
choose to slip the airplane.  A proper slip is cross controlled on purpose, but 
the nose is kept down, and the descent is allowed to continue, so no stall.  
The base to final is typically deadly due to the fact that most aircraft/pilots 
need 200-300 feet of loss of altitude to recover from a stall initiated as a 
"surprise", and there just is not enough altitude on final to keep from hitting 
something.  The faster aircraft need more than this.

Otherwise I agree with all you have presented and appreciate you taking the 
time to explain it...

Colin & Bev Rainey
KR2(td) N96TA
Sanford, FL
crain...@cfl.rr.com
http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html

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