Colin: True that the supercharger uses horsepower, as does every other thing hanging off the accessory case. Unlike a turbo however the power increase is there from the get go. A turbo depends upon high revs to produce power which increases the wear on an engine. The supercharger however produces most of it's power at lower rpm's where we tend to normally operate. The supercharger has been used for many years and in WW2 many of the fighter aircraft used them sometimes in tandem, most notably the British Spitfire and American P51 Mustang. The point that they are not controllable is not true as they can be set up either at the factory by the manufacturer to operate in a certain boost range or can be manually controlled with a waste gate much the same as a turbo. The main advantage to the supercharger over the turbo however comes when the throttle is opened up. The supercharger is working right now, whereas it takes time for the turbo to spool up and develop its power, much the same as a jet engine. As you can see this could be a deadly situation as in a missed approach or another emergency when instant power is required. The turbo does create horsepower, yes but the supercharger on the other hand produces not only horsepower but more importantly torque, and that when all is said and done is what is needed to swing that overgrown fan on the nose of the aircraft. What it really comes down to however remains a personal choice. I have used both superchargers and turbos over the years and both work well but in the case of an aircraft type application I believe one would be more satisfied with the results obtained from using the supercharger. This would be an excellent time for Mr. Hoover to chime in here as he has flown aircraft that have been equipped with superchargers and I for one would be very interested in his input on the subject. Doug Rupert Simcoe Ontario
-----Original Message----- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Colin & Bev Rainey Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 4:03 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Supercharging vs Turbocharging Doug & netters, The main reason for using a turbo instead of the supercharger is that a supercharger relies on cannibalizing horsepower from the engine to make horsepower, where the turbo uses "free" horsepower derived from the exhaust pulses of the engine. The supercharger renders horsepower at the cost of some, and they are not controllable for the amount of boost like the turbo is. They are usually configured and then "on" all the time. Turbos can be set so to speak. Typically where people run into problems with overheating and such is 1) the restriction in the free flowing exhaust "backs up" heat into the engine, & 2) the heat introduced into the fuel/air mixture due to the heat generated from compressing the air. Number one complaint has typically been solved by increasing air flow around the exhaust area, and making boost at higher rpms where the momentum of the turbo can be sufficiently built up to actually begin to help scavenge exhaust out of the engine. Number 2 is dealt with by using low compression pistons, higher octane fuel, delayed turbo response, intercoolers, or combinations of those things. All that having been said, and at the risk of making an oversimplification, if one were to use the ONLY for normalizing the engine, and therefore have a manual wastegate that allowed the pilot to only "activate" the turbo above a density altitude of say 3-4000 feet, than the engine should just behave as if it was still at those altitudes, if one did not allow the manifold pressure to grow beyond the inches that are experienced below that altitude. One would then "trick" the engine into believing it was still down lower. I think most problems are encountered when the temptation to try and tap the additional performance increases offered by the turbo at lower altitudes that gets most pilots into trouble. The additional heat, AT ALTITUDE would be a beneficial thing, both being added to the cowling temp, and the mixture, as it would help the engine from being too cool at altitude (above say 5000feet), and would assist in good air/fuel atomization or mixing as well. Remember, even in our modern cars, there is a certain amount of engine heat that must be added to the air/fuel mixture in order to prevent the gasoline from "falling out" of the mix due to condensation within the intake manifold. This is where some have had tuning problems due to the surging and rich/lean running because the fuel falls out and then puddles, then gets sucked into the next cylinder as too rich and the engine surges, and cuts out, sometimes minor, sometimes major. One other caution about turbos: make sure you know what kind you have, blow through, or draw through. A blow through design lacks the seal necessary to draw air/fuel mixture through the carb, where the turbo would be mounted AFTER the carb, but before the engine. The other design draw through has these seals. Most turbos are the blow through design, and draw outside air in, then compress it and send it on to the carb or fuel injection system. Also turbos typically allow for the elimination of any kind of muffler due to their quieting effect. Flame as necessary......lol Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crain...@cfl.rr.com or crbrn9...@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html