I got a trim failure  once. The failure cause was that during an annual
inspection, the inspector did not like the way my trim tab bracket looked
like (it had been redrilled twice), and he had me make another one.
Unfortunately, being very inexperienced, I glued the new one with the wrong
glue, and it broke loose in flight. Well, all I noticed was a "funny stick"
feeling, and I realized onl after landing at destination what had happened.
So, I neutralized the trim tab with duct tape, took off, and flew back to
base to fix it.

Stick forces are, indeed, very light, and a KR is flown "hands-on" all the
time. The trim brings comfort, especially considering the CG differences
between configurations (one on board, two on board, full fuel, low fuel...).
But the stick forces are easily overcome in any case.

Serge Vidal
KR2 ZS-WEC
Tunis, Tunisia (Pilot)
Orleans, France (Aircraft)

-----Original Message----
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Brian Kraut
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 18:23
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR>Elevator trim


If I built another one I would definitely put the trim on.  I would also do
a small aileron trim tab with the same type of simple control cable so I
could fold maps, etc. when it was trimed.  That was a real pain to do using
my knee to keep the plane from rolling.

If I used an electric trim, which I wouldn't do, I wouldn't bother doing a
trim indicator.  I would just see that the trim tab was around neutral
during the preflight and wouldn't worry about it after that.  My opinion is
that you could very safely take off in a KR with the trim full up or down
and you wouldn't even notice that it was out of trim until you got to
altitude and tried taking your hand off the stick.  I actually did my first
landing with the trim full up.  I tried trimming the plane and forgot that
on mine pushing the trim lever forward was up trim, not down, so I thought
that I just didn't have enough down trim and didn't realize that I was
trimming in the wrong direction.  Again, the stick forces are so light and I
couldn't take my hand off the stick to keep it from rolling that I really
barely noticed that I had to keep the stick pushed forward a little.

I couldn't try flying with elevator trim only since I always need to hold
some right aileron and it was impossible to push the stick to the right and
let the elevator go where it wanted at the same time.  If I did loose
elevator control I am fairly confident that I could land with elevator trim
and aileron control only, but I would definitely go to a grass strip where I
wouldn't have as much of the KR ram the stick forward as soon as the mains
touch to keep from bouncing tendancy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Heath <da...@alltel.net>
Sent: Jan 29, 2004 5:49 AM
To: "kr...@mylist.net" <kr...@mylist.net>
Subject: Re: KR>Elevator trim

RE:  I rarely even bothered to trim it. I always had my hand on the stick



Brian,



You make a good point.  Other than for a "piece of mind" backup to elevator
control, why do KR builders spend so much time and money on elevator trim
that they most likely will never use.  I rarely used mine for the same
reason, you always have your hand on the stick.



I would really like an aileron trim to offset the tendency to roll to the
right or left, as mine did the same thing.



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Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC



da...@kr-builder.org



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