Yes, their are better alternatives. I am using one I think. It's Dupont Etchant 
prime which is a medium build [weight] primer for all types of material [metal, 
fiber, SS, Alum and etc.].  It required a spray application but no more than 2 
or 3 coats depending on you finish. I believe Dupont developed it for the 
aircraft and auto industries.

Ron


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Peg and Mike Meyer" <pmme...@swbell.net>
Reply-To: KR builders and pilots <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:19:55 -0500

>If you want to extend the useful life of a patch of cross-linked smooth
>prime, put it in the refrigerator when you're done. I've been able to
>maintain workable smooth prime for many, many hours after I've cross-linked
>it.
>
>I've got to be honest, I'm not all that nuts about smooth prime. You wind up
>waiting a long time to get a few coats of this stuff on and it's difficult
>to see the imperfections that really need the attention. Martin-Senour, PPG,
>and a variety of other manufacturers offer dry sandable primer-surfacer that
>flashes in about 10 minutes. You can lay as many coats as you'd like in
>about an hour with a HVLP gun. The products I've been looking at are used on
>Corvettes, so it can't be all bad (UV protection and all that). Beside
>which, it's one hell of a lot cheaper. I'm going to talk to my local PPG guy
>before I make the switch. If it's a suitable match, I'll never use
>overpriced, overblown smooth prime again.
>
>Mike Meyer
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "larry flesner" <fles...@midwest.net>
>To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:45 AM
>Subject: KR>Smooth Prime (long)
>
>
>>
>>
>> I've just opened my third gallon of Smooth Prime and I'm getting
>> close to finished on priming my KR.  I'll share a few observations
>> on what I've experienced so far.
>>
>> - Read the ( manufactures) directions carefully so you know
>> what you're doing.
>>
>> - A propeller shaped paint mixer on a 1/4 drill motor does a
>> good job of mixing and it is not necessary to locate a paint
>> shaker as suggested in the directions.  If the primer has set
>> for some time you will want to use a stir stick to loosen the
>> solids that have compacted on the bottom of the can when
>> you mix the primer.
>>
>> - The first three coats require adding "cross-linker".  I used
>> a quart fruit jar for mixing.  It has to be used in eight hours
>> so don't mix more than you intend to roll on in that amount
>> of time.
>>
>> - Some light sanding after two or three coats will help get a
>> smooth finish a bit more quickly and with less effort.  The
>> first coats will have a very rough finish because of the high
>> solids content of the primer.  240 or 320 grit paper works
>> well for that.
>>
>> - No matter how careful you are you will have "pimples" and
>> flecks of solids in the finish.  These come from primer that
>> has dried in your paint dish and around the rim of the can and
>> then find there way into the primer.  They will easily sand off
>> but a better method is to use a small scraper with the single
>> edge razor blade.  Carefully run the scraper across the surface
>> at a shallow angle and they cut right off.  If you sand them off
>> you will sand off primer around the spot that you will have to
>> replace.
>>
>> - Another flaw you will get is "ridges" in the primer that come from
>> the end of the roller that you fail to see and don't get rolled out.
>> Use your razor scraper to remove these also but draw the blade
>> down the length of the ridge in a near vertical motion.  It will only
>> take off the ridge and not the surrounding primer.
>>
>> - The directions say you can either spray or roll on the last three
>> coats.  When spraying it says to add some water to thin the
>> primer.  This also works when rolling and will help to give a
>> smoother finish.  I used a pint jar and added a bit of water at a
>> time until I got the mix I wanted.
>>
>> - I found I could use the primer with a 6" rubber squeegee and
>> very light pressure to fill minor defects.  It dries very quickly and
>> is ready to sand in a very short time.  I added some "micro" to
>> the primer and used the squeegee to fill slightly larger defects
>> with good results.
>>
>> - When I started I used a plastic spout to pour primer from the
>> can into my mixing jars.  The problem is you can never get all
>> the primer off the spout and the bottom edge of the can rim.
>> This will cause you to later get a lot of dried flecks of primer
>> that find their way onto the finish.  When I started my last
>> gallon I switched to using small disposable cups to dip the primer
>> from the can.  I use my roller to clean out the "dipping" cup and
>> then toss the cup into the trash, starting with a clean cup on the
>> next draw.
>>
>> - For safety reasons you should wear a mask while sanding. I hate
>> the mask because my glasses don't fit well and keep "fogging"
>> as I breath.  My solution is to sand in an open area and use two
>> window fans mounted in a stand. I Keep the fans close to my
>> work and always keep my head in the direct blast of air and
>> "up wind" of the area I'm sanding.  USE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT
>> HERE.
>>
>> - Last but not least, the discouraging news.  When you think you
>> are nearly finished, look again.  You will most likely find you are
>> only about half done!
>>
>> As always, do your own testing.  YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY.
>>
>> I hope to be painting in the next 30 days and my painter has
>> convinced me to use a DuPont paint that sells for $38 a gallon.
>> I've seen his "work truck" that he painted 8 years ago in his
>> driveway in Florida and the paint seems to have held up well.
>> The color selection is limited but the color white available seems
>> to be what I'm looking for.  I intend to use vynal for my trim strips.
>> More info on that later.
>>
>> Happy building.......
>>
>> Larry Flesner
>>
>>
>>
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