To answer the spin question, DON'T DO IT ON PURPOSE! Not going to tell the story, but had about 100 feet when I recovered. Started at 3000 ft.And a parachute would not have helped. Wanted to add ?that before those comments started. Could not have gotten out.?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: jsellars--- via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org> List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 05/11/2016 09:23 (GMT-05:00) To: 'KRnet' <krnet at list.krnet.org> Cc: jsellars at sellarswealthmanagement.com Subject: Re: KR> parachutes Mark; I agree completely with your assessment.? I have had three events with my KR2 in the past and never was it the fault of the airframe.? Always an engine event.? Jumping out was that last thing I would consider, as the plane is a dream to fly!? It goes exactly where and how you ask it.? So landing even in difficult conditions or terrain is doable. I have a question however, I have stalled the KR2 but I did not spin it.? Does anyone have experience with spinning a KR2.? Seems the close coupling would make that an interesting aviation experiment.? The tail is a bit small so would it stop the rotation?? If you have any thought please share. Best Jim -----Original Message----- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Langford via KRnet Sent: May 10, 2016 11:22 PM To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org> Cc: Mark Langford <ml at n56ml.com> Subject: KR> parachutes Regarding parachutes, it's worth mentioning that there's never been an inflight structural failure of a KR (the all-composite one at high speed at the Gathering doesn't count, in my mind), although there is a question of elevator bellcrank failure in one plane, but it's possible it was crash induced.? There may be others, but no spar or fuselage failure that I know of. So given that record and the many thousands of KR hours logged, what are the chances that you're going to have to go down somewhere so inhospitable that you can do some semblance of a landing somewhere? Even if it's in the tree tops, you'll likely survive it.? So assuming you are still in control of a plane that's capable of gliding, I'd just stall it in the tree tops somewhere.? John Schaffer did that in a flat spin from 8000', and survived. And how much time do you spend over that kind of terrain in Missouri anyway? Your chances are looking better already!? Jeff Scott probably doesn't like what he sees out the window 75% of the time, but he doesn't wear a parachute. Jumping out of a spinning or otherwise disabled plane is not without its risks as well...perhaps higher than sticking with the plane to put it on the ground somewhere.? You could get whacked in the head by the horizontal stabilizer, or your parachute might be a streamer, etc.? And what if your plane crashes into a house and kills a family eating lunch? ? That'd be bad. I guess what I'm trying to say is if you are so concerned about a structural or control failure, you should probably start thinking twin engines and lot of other redundancy.? Statistics are on your side though...if your plane goes down, it'll likely be a fuel problem or a broken crankshaft, and then you simply land in a field or on a road.? At least that way you still have a plane that you can rebuild or scavenge for parts, or just maybe, it won't have a scratch on it!? No need to carry 20 pounds around for years expecting it to pay off someday, when it likely won't. I have about 1400 hours of KR time, and I've had plenty of engine problems, and zero structural problems.? With the plane 20 pounds lighter, and the comfort of not being packed into my seat with a parachute, I've had some pretty smooth and enjoyable flying so far. And yes, I do know that the second engine is just there to get you to the scene of the crash... -- Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com _______________________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options _______________________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options