Thank you Marc.Tommy W, former gathering host.And thanks to the KR community for the opportunity to be a part of it.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Sparky Sparks via KRnet < krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote: > Thank you Marc' Sparky Sparks > > -----Original Message----- From: Marc Baca via KRnet > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:58 AM > To: KRnet > Cc: Marc Baca ; Steve G. > Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering > > > I typically maintain a low profile on the net and simply listen and learn > but today I'm compelled to talk about something I know a little about. > Throughout the last couple of years i've seen a few individuals lob some > subtle and often less than subtle suggestions that Steve Glover has > indulged in some impropriety. One such comment is the folowing...... > "Hopefully there will be a full accounting to close those Gathering > books".... > > I'm hoping that comments like these are simply an abrupt choice of words > and that they does not translate into Steve Glover (who organized the 2014 > Gathering) having to deal with yet another layer of popular > misunderstandings. > > I'm almost positive that Steve Glover will NOT give a "FULL" accounting of > the expenses for last year's gathering. I'm sure that he won't bother > anyone by commenting about the the numerous days he took off to get the > 2014 KR Gathering locked in, the amount of $$ he spent out of pocket for > the guys he had to pay to clean and arranged a production hangar for the > worshops..... and out of sheer consideration for attendees.... the > constructions and installation of a new toilet (for older folk) and sinks, > the siding so that the hangar would look presentable and functional for > people, the renting and purchase of amenities like the Public Address > system, chairs and tables, the loss he took purchasing items to make sure > the workshops were useful to people, the gasoline from driving around to > get things done. Because the 2014 gathering appeared seemless, one might > not know the amount of time and effort it took to deal with the > administration at the airport, discussions with insurance companies, the > coordination of the cadre of volunteers and contributors that he had to > convince. I'm certain there's alot more that did that does not come to > mind at the moment. > I often see a posts that suggest that he is running a KR business that is > non responsive and have even seen the suggestion of fiduciary impropriety. > Many people don't know that he has invested several thousands of dollars > into a business (perhaps $75K or more) that keeps premade KR Parts > available at a significant loss to him personally year after year. I can > see Steve's frustration building year after year as some of these posts add > insult to the financial injury. > > For those of you who have been swayed with a question about his character, > I've seen Steve almost every weekend for the last 4 years during which time > he's taught me to build aircraft. In the 4 years I've known him, I have not > witnessed even ONE incidence where Steve has indulged in any monetary > discrepancies. People never find out about the finicky buyers that cost him > fees after rescinding their orders due to the unfounded comments and ideas > transmitted through emails and such. Moreover, the last couple of years > I've witnessed people's expressed anxieties about plans and parts on the > KRnet. Most of the time the delays were caused by things that were not > under his control. I wont bore anyone with details but consider this.... > Steve Glover has made a great contribution to the KR Community.... 75% of > the time at his own expense .... as there is little financial gain in the > KR parts business and almost all of the time there is negative financial > gain. Every month, year after year, despite the cyber wallops lobbed at > him, he keeps the availability of pre made parts, kits and innovations for > the KR coming. > > Once again, I'm not interested in stirring up a discussion about this... > My comment is for the purpose of precluding a discussion about people's > anxieties .... as I personally witness the weekly operations at the NVaero > Hangar. > > I also want to tip my hat to those individuals who assemble these > gatherings.... as I've witnessed that it is a Herculean effort. > Marc BacaEast L.A.N13UG > > > On Friday, September 11, 2015 6:09 AM, Steve G. via KRnet < > krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote: > > > Yet again, nobody contacted me. > > Steve Glover > > Sent from my electronic leash. > > On Sep 11, 2015, at 05:40, Flesner via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I received the following personal e-mail and felt it necessary to reply >> to the group as I'm sure others have the same concern. E-mail and reply >> are below. >> >> Larry Flesner >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> At 11:29 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote: >> >>> Guys, is it really necessary/appropriate to be having this 'discussion' >>> on a public forum? >>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> I felt it necessary to put the info on the net because of the situation >> it created. In spite of Steve's comment "Your "situation" is a joke and >> created by certain persons with their own agenda", his procrastination left >> Dan and John with no idea what funds they had to work with until shortly >> before the Gathering. It left people thinking we were short of funds and >> generated discussions at the Gathering about incorporating, having elected >> officers, people feeling obligated to donate additional funds, etc. I >> don't consider that "situation" to be a joke and felt everyone concerned >> needed to know the facts so we could make some rational decisions >> concerning future Gatherings. >> >> And yes, at this point, if there are any future communications, they can >> be handled off line. As a member of the steering committee, I hope to have >> open, honest, and timely communication for future Gatherings. >> >> Larry Flesner >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to >> change options >> > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > > > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
