> Aircraft Spruce has Cheng Shin 11x4.0-5 tires in 6 ply and 8 ply. What
ply
> do you have or recommend?

Joe,
I have been flying Cheng 6 ply now since 2005 and never had an issue.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)

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I plan to have a talk with Spruce regarding the last tires I bought from
them.  I was after Cheng Shins 4.10/3.50/5 and somehow wound up with
tires that say TON-KEEP on the side, made in Viet Nam.  I think I might
have been told they were "made by" Cheng Shin, but I'm not sure about
that.  I bought them across the counter, they looked fine, were the right
size, and the Spruce person even took these tires from shipping since
they didn't have any in stock.  These tires were on their way to Italy
but they weren't in a hurry for them so I got them and the Italian buyer
got put on backorder.  

They were worn out after about thirty landings but I delayed putting new
ones on since I've used tires worn smooth before without incident . . .
besides with so few takeoffs and landings on them how could they be worn
out?  I'm not a brake person.  I've used some oddball tires over time -
Nanco, Carlisle, etc. but none of them ever caused a problem or were worn
out with only 30 landings.  I came up with that 30 figure a couple weeks
ago when I noticed how badly they were worn - went back in my logbook and
counted them.  I've done a few more takeoffs and landings, including
three touch and go's while rolling along the runway at high speed since
then but I can safely say these tires have under forty takeoffs &
landings on them.  

I flew down to Brown Field for gas on Thursday and was back-taxiing on
the runway and turning onto the exit when the left tire went BAM and
suddenly I wasn't rolling very smoothly.  I got permission from ground to
shut down and got out to pull it across the hold short line and then
pulled it over to the side and went to hopefully find a dolly to put
under the wheel.  There was one at hand, lucky me.  I sat on the back of
the tug and held the prop as we towed it to the ramp.  I had a couple new
(real) Cheng Shins I had bought on eBay and I have an accumulation of
tubes and old tire carcasses in the hangar so all I needed to do was get
back to Gillespie and load up tire changing gear and the replacement
tires.  A hangar neighbor with a Skymaster had landed just behind me and
gave me a lift back to my hangar.  I continue to have luck in my reserve
account it seems.  

The blowout could have happened when going fast and done damage to my
rotor and caliper.

There was a dolly at hand - use of which prevented doing damage to rotor
& caliper while pulling the plane across the rough old WWII era concrete.


There was someone immediately at hand to give me a lift back to
Gillespie.

I was planning on going out to a remote desert strip (Giant Rock -
currently uncharted) on Christmas Day and the trip to Brown was to fill
up for that flight.  The tires were smooth but the cord wasn't showing so
they didn't look THAT bad . . . . 

I would really have been in a pickle if this blowout had happened out in
the middle of nowhere.  Giant Rock was once an annual gathering place for
UFO contactees back in the 40's, 50's and 60's, but these days only an
occasional sand buggy might pass by.  There's nothing there except the
largest free standing boulder on the planet.  The nearest paved road is
many miles away.  It wouldn't have been a merry Christmas.

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The plane originally came with a set of slicks that Great Plains sells
but they vibrated badly and I couldn't get them to balance, plus they
didn't easily fit inside the pants.  One side would rub sometimes.  So I
replaced them with some Cheng Shins from Desser Tire and they were great.
 I got 189 landings & takeoffs and quite a lot of touch and go's with
those tires but Desser stopped selling them by the time I wanted new ones
and I never found an easy source.  That's how I wound up with the other
oddball brands.  They all worked okay but none lasted as well as Cheng
Shins.  These new Cheng Shins I just put on the plane I accumulated over
months of watching on eBay.  The sellers each only had one tire.  They
are on my watch list but don't pop up very often.    

The wheel pant was slightly damaged but the Rosenhaun rotor is still fine
even though it was forced to act like a wheel while on a very hard and
rough surface.  I had to pull it by hand for some distance to get it
clear of the runway and taxiway.        

I've got some tire questions for tire-knowledgable netters but I'll do
another post to keep this one from getting any longer.  The take-away
from my experience is don't put any tires on your planes that say
TON-KEEP on the side.  I don't know how I got such crappy tires from
Aircraft Spruce but I'll talk to them about it once the holidays settle
down.

Mike
KSEE

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