Hey folks.
My wife and I bought our KR2 with the understanding that it is a
viable to place even if it will be for shorter hops. The individual that
built it and flewit two up and the other folks that bought it before me
flrw it back together from several hundred miles away. They would also take
their mother up in it on a regular basis They were not large but they were
not tiny either. True I have not done a lot of flying with mine but I fully
intend to take my 5 foot 5 125 pound wife with me quite a bit. I am also
not a large person coming in at 5 foot 7 175 pounds but I'm not tiny either
and both of us seem to fit even though it is tight it is not too
uncomfortable.
Doran
N186RC
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> 5. Display wash out (Doran Jaffas)
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> 8. Two up? (Hennie van Rooyen [HQP Alloystream])
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:12:32 -0700
> From: Dan Prichard <dprich01 at comcast.net>
> To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: Re: KR> Two up?
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> I'm building as a single seat. I'm 6'2" and stretched my KR2S 3"s forward
> of the main spar and 14"s aft. Fuselage width was kept pretty much
> standard. In the late 70's when doing flight training in a Cessna 150 my
> CFI was as large as me. Recalling those days in the hot Texas sun, swapping
> sweat and being far closer to another human than I care to remember helped
> me make my decision. The majority of my fight hours are solo anyway. It's
> hard enough to get someone up in a production airplane let alone one glued
> and glassed together. My wife applauded my decision.
>
> Dan Prichard
> Portland Oregon.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:48 PM, "Hennie van Rooyen [HQP Alloystream]" <
> Hennie.vanRooyen at exxaro.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've asked all South African KR2 owners if anyone flies his KR2
> regularly with two up and the short answer I received was NO! I find this
> hard to believe and would like the opinion of other KR2 flyers all over the
> world on this so that I can share with those in
> >
> > Henni,
> > South
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:21:18 -0500
> From: "Mark Langford" <ml at n56ml.com>
> To: "KRnet" <krnet at list.krnet.org>, "CorvAircraft"
> <corvaircraft at list.corvaircraft.org>
> Subject: KR> Yahoo email users notice...please read!
> Message-ID: <00ae01cf54fa$6f3d76d0$4db86470$@n56ml.com>
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> Yahoo email account users? see below message from the KRnet and
> CorvAircraft email list ?host? regarding Yahoo accounts. Bottom line is
> that yahoo subscribers need to find another free email service. I?m no
> expert on free email services, but I?d think Google?s gmail is as good as
> any, although I?m sure somebody will disagree. See
> https://accounts.google.com/SignUp?service=mail . I will likely
> ?moderate? Yahoo account users this weekend in order to save the rest from
> being unsubscribed due to bounces. To ?moderate? means you can read email
> but not post to the list. So here?s your heads-up to get a different kind
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>
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> Yahoo initiated a terrible policy change to their mail servers recently
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> https://wordtothewise.com/2014/04/brief-dmarc-primer/
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:32:01 -0400 (EDT)
> From: peter <jordanruthseto at aol.com>
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> Two up?
> Message-ID: <8D1231B71E0290A-1F2C-49333 at webmail-va046.sysops.aol.com>
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>
> I've wondered why we don't slightly offset seats in narrow aircraft so
> that shoulders are separated by six inches for and aft? Hips rarely move
> much when arms are always active. Call it semi-tandem seating? Peter
>
>
>
> I've said many times that the width of the "plans-built" KR2 is simply too
> narrow for two normal adults.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:40:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Craig Williams <kr2seafury at yahoo.com>
> To: KRNet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: KR> Near Jackson Ms
> Message-ID:
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> I will be in Jackson Ms starting on 4/21. ?Wondered if there are any KR
> folks near there to visit with.
>
> Craig
> www.kr2seafury.com
> www.flightwidgets.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:06:14 -0700
> From: Doran Jaffas <kr2owner at gmail.com>
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Display wash out
> Message-ID:
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> I purchased the Samsung Tab 3 7" model and was pleasantly surprised
> at how visable it is above the clouds at fl22.
> Just a heads up.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:20:27 +1000
> From: "=?utf-8?B?cGsuc21pdGhAYmlncG9uZC5uZXQuYXU=?="
> <pk.smith at bigpond.net.au>
> To: "KRnet" <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: Re: KR> Two up?
> Message-ID:
> <20140411012028.DWLJ19534.nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com at nskntcmgw06p
> >
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> Had a friend with a standard KR who built an 8" deep cushions for his
> wife. The cushion was hollowed out in back and could be filled with
> clothing. They went everywhere in that little bird. Google "VH-XXS" stood
> for eXtra eXtra small :-).
> Paul, Brisbane, Australia.
>
> Sent from my HTC One XL on the Telstra 4G network
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "peter" <jordanruthseto at aol.com>
> To: <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: KR> Two up?
> Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 7:32 AM
>
> I've wondered why we don't slightly offset seats in narrow aircraft so
> that shoulders are separated by six inches for and aft? Hips rarely move
> much when arms are always active. Call it semi-tandem seat.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 20:44:26 -0500
> From: "Mark Langford" <ml at n56ml.com>
> To: "KRnet" <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: Re: KR> Two up?
> Message-ID: <A56E32B3CCCB4F2F8D5E385EB5FA547A at base>
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>
> Paul Smith wrote:
>
> > Had a friend with a standard KR who built an 8" deep cushions for his
> > wife. The cushion was hollowed out in back and could be filled with
> > clothing. They went everywhere in that little bird. Google "VH-XXS" stood
> > for eXtra eXtra small :-).
>
> That works great for short little women, but those are few and far between
> where I live. Other than my wife, it's mostly large-to-huge guys who are
> building KRs that I end up flying! The aft spar bounds the back of the
> seating arrangement, so you can't go aft, and the only way you can go
> forward 6" is for short folks. If you go to the trouble of setting up
> staggered seating, which I've yet to see, it'd have to be your wife (or
> girlfriend) to rate that kind of effort, and most women are too smart to
> fly
> in KRs, my wife being a notable exception. It sounds viable though.
>
> So in all the flying I've done in N56ML I'd estimate under 1% of it being
> with a passenger (mostly familiarization flights at the Gathering), except
> my brother has flown down to my father's farm with me a lot, so maybe I'm
> up
> to 2% with a passenger, and he's smaller than I am.
>
> I'm not trying discourage two-up flight in a KR, but build it wide, long,
> with wing tanks,and put a big engine in it, or you are flirting with not
> enough power to get you out of a jam. A lot of folks would say "go build
> an
> RV", but there have been enough successful KRs that have blazed the trail
> already...for occasional two-up flying, they work fine. If you think most
> of your flying will be dual (and you are probably wrong), find something
> else to build and fly, then arrive at the same conclusion has many of
> us...build a single-seater...
>
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 04:30:48 +0000
> From: "Hennie van Rooyen [HQP Alloystream]"
> <Hennie.vanRooyen at exxaro.com>
> To: "krnet at list.krnet.org" <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: KR> Two up?
> Message-ID:
> <EB76F9BD7748084DAF4CE326EE3E690A591BEDDB at HQPXCPP02.EXXARO.COM>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thank you for all the feedback. Please keep them coming. Very interesting
> to read. I share them with the rest of us South Africans over here:
>
> http://www.microlighters.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22857&start=120
>
> All the best my friends,
>
> Henni
> South Africa
>
>
> This e-mail is confidential and is for the addressee only.
> Please refer to http://www.exxaro.com/content/main/disclaimer.asp
> for important disclaimers.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:45:02 GMT
> From: "joe.kr2s.builder at juno.com" <joe.kr2s.builder at juno.com>
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> data base information
> Message-ID: <20140411.054502.16366.0 at webmail03.dca.untd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Hey Guys,About 2 years ago the FAA was to start charging for the charts
> data base that everyone was updating their GPS units. All the GPS makers
> were going to pass this unknown amount of money on to us consumers. I
> finally did update mine a week ago and they did not chatge me. What ever
> happened to this FAAproposed policy???Joe Horton
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:40:42 -0400
> From: Wayne <wdelislesr at carolina.rr.com>
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> Two up?
> Message-ID: <5347F0DA.80202 at carolina.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Checkout this link.
>
> http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/kr-2/VH-XXS-03.htm
>
> Would love to have known Graham Schott...
>
> Wayne (oldmoparguy)
>
>
> > KR> Two up?
> > pk.smith at bigpond.net.au pk.smith at bigpond.net.au
> > Thu Apr 10 21:20:27 EDT 2014
> >
> > Previous message: KR> Two up?
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> > Had a friend with a standard KR who built an 8" deep cushions for his
> wife.
> > The cushion was hollowed out in back and could be filled with clothing.
> > They went everywhere in that little bird. Google "VH-XXS" stood for
> eXtra eXtra small :-).
> > Paul, Brisbane, Australia.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 10:54:15 -0500
> From: "Mark Langford" <ml at n56ml.com>
> To: "'KRnet'" <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: Re: KR> Two up?
> Message-ID: <002301cf559e$4aad2a50$e0077ef0$@n56ml.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Wayne wrote:
>
> >Checkout this link. http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/kr-2/VH-XXS-03.htm
>
> The interesting thing about that photo is that he's cleared out the area
> under the canopy between canopy and top longeron and apparently put some
> Plexiglas in the hole. I'm guessing that was so he had better visibility
> of
> the side of the runway when landing. That's one of the worst things about
> the original KR2 bubble...limited visibility of that area forward and to
> the
> left, just in front of and left of the wing. A good view of that area is
> crucial for landing. It provides altitude feedback, as well as "am I even
> on the runway" for three-point landings in a taildragger. I'd like to know
> more about how he did that. The Dragonfly or KR2S canopy provides a lot
> better visibility, but they are a lot more expensive also.
>
> I don't think I made that photo. I'm thinking John Martindale or one of
> the other Aussies sent it to me when I was looking for air-to-air shots for
> KRnet. I don't mind my name being stuck on it, but whoever really took the
> photo should get credit for it.
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> ML at N56ML.com
> www.N56ML.com
>
>
>
>
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