Hi
Is anyone else watching the PCC trial of removing ISBD punctuation? It started 
in February. I've copied a brief excerpt from the announcement below. The full 
announcement is available on the PPC website http://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/ We 
copy-catalogue as much as possible and make our Koha as Marc21 compliant as we 
can so are watching to see what happens. Perhaps the issue of how Koha handles 
ISBD punctuation is something to consider for long term development?
Teresa

Teresa Preston
Acting Research Resources Manager
Parliamentary Service Te Ratonga Whare Pāremata
Private Bag 18041, Wellington 6160, New Zealand
www.parliament.nz


Testing Use of Limited ISBD Punctuation in Bibliographic Records February 6, 
2018 The Program for Cooperative Cataloging (PCC), OCLC, and SkyRiver will 
begin testing a possible transition to using limited ISBD punctuation in MARC 
21 bibliographic records.  The test period will run through July 1, 2018, 
followed by an evaluation period that will culminate in a decision on whether 
to move forward.
Rationale:
Creating MARC 21 records without punctuation that duplicates MARC 21 coding is 
expected to save time for catalogers, make it easier to map data to and from 
other formats, and allow for an easier transition to linked data. Creating 
records with limited ISBD punctuation simplifies data entry and allows 
catalogers to focus solely on coding to better identify parts of the 
bibliographic description. OCLC analysis of changes that catalogers make to 
existing bibliographic data indicates that edits to ISBD punctuation and 
associated spacing have little to no impact on retrieval and use.  In addition, 
this change would allow for flexibility in the design of online displays 
without the need for suppressing punctuation.
Please see the Frequently Asked Questions<https://goo.gl/rcpCx2>   for 
additional information about the test.

-----Original Message-----
From: Koha [mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Katrin Fischer
Sent: Monday, 27 August 2018 5:41 AM
To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
Subject: Re: [Koha] Should XSLT add punctuation?

Hi Caroline.

the question of ISBD punctuation has been giving us quite some trouble as in 
Germany it's usually not added (leader/18 as you pointed out).

In Koha a compley 245 with abcnp will look wrong without any punctuation and 
Koha is not adding it. I think at the moment leader/18 is not checked at all, 
Koha assumes that it's dealing with records that contain ISBD punctuation, but 
often removes it.

Not having 'grown up' with MARC21 the trailing '.' always looks a bit odd to me 
when it's displayed in the OPAC, but we should definitely be consistent.

I don't have a clear opinion, but maybe we need to overhaul our XSLT and check 
for leader/18.

Katrin


On 22.08.2018 23:45, Caroline Cyr-La-Rose wrote:
> Hello everyone!
>
> I have a question regarding the XSLT stylesheets (for MARC21). Is it
> supposed to change the punctuation when displaying the record?
>
> For instance, I have a record where there is a period (.) at the end
> of 100$e. So in MARC, it looks like
>
> 100 1#
> a Goscinny, René,
> d 1926-1977-,
> e author.
>
> In intranet details, it looks like
>
> Goscinny, René, 1926-1977- [author.].
>
> There are two periods (and no comma after the date).
>
> In the 260 field, the opposite happens. There is a period at the end
> of 260$c in MARC, but nothing is appearing in intranet results.
>
> 260 ##
> a Paris :
> b Gallimard jeunesse,
> c [2014].
>
> In the intranet details, it looks like
>
> Paris : Gallimard jeunesse, [2014]
>
> There is no period after the date.
>
> It's not clear what the XSLT is trying to do. On one hand, it looks
> like it's trying to complete the punctuation, but it removes it
> sometimes.
>
> My knowledge of AACR2 rules for punctuation was wiped from my brain
> the second I graduated ~10 years ago (maybe even before, if I'm being
> really honest!), so I'm not even sure what the right punctuation is
> supposed to be.
>
> But my question is if the XSLT is supposed to mess with the
> punctuation or not? And if the answer is yes, shouldn't it look first
> in leader/18 to see if the record already has punctuation?
>
>
> Thank you for your help koha!
>
> Caroline
>
>
> Caroline Cyr La Rose, M.L.I.S.
> Librarian, Head of training and support inLibro
>
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