I would like to have a copy of this alleged mail, with complete headers. Sudhir Gandotra
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:11 AM, vikram zadgaonkar < vikramczadgaon...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > From yesterday we are getting sale/marketing spam emails from > sud...@openlx.com email ID for *www.BestBookBuddies.com > <http://www.bestbookbuddies.com/> *. I believe others are also facing > this problem. > I request to address this issue. > > Vikram Zadgaonkar > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:09 AM, Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate < > sud...@kalculate.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Jonathan, for pointing out that link on lislinks.com - it was a >> un-intended mistake - not knowing that replying to different people would >> get consolidated on one page. I have now deleted them, and will take care >> of such things in future. >> >> My new request for registration can be the consolidation of earlier >> listings. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Sudhir Gandotra >> www.bestbookbuddies.com >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Jonathan Druart < >> jonathan.dru...@bugs.koha-community.org> wrote: >> >> > This is spam: >> > http://www.lislinks.com/forum/topics/how-to-import-data- >> > from-libsys-to-koha >> > >> > Moreover the request you made got an answer: https://lists.katipo. >> > co.nz/pipermail/koha/2016-November/046546.html >> > => OpenLX is already listed. >> > By the way the link to the demo is down. >> > >> > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 at 15:26 Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate < >> > sud...@kalculate.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Well Chris Cormack, It will be very interesting to note that a Koha >> >> Service Provider with over 400 Libraries to his credit, will be removed >> >> from the official list, because he sent a mail to a Library informing >> about >> >> his Koha Services. >> >> >> >> It will be an interesting standard to be fixed for this community and >> to >> >> be watched closely by many in the future. >> >> >> >> It is interesting to note that while you do not rightly want to be part >> >> of the trouble between some service providers, you seem to be >> influenced by >> >> some of them. I hope I will be proven wrong on this point, which seems >> to >> >> be clear conclusion from what you wrote. >> >> >> >> *By the way, how do we decide that my mail to a library, a direct mail >> >> sent to them, can be termed as a spam ?* >> >> >> >> *Since when, did people start talking of their services only when >> someone >> >> asks for them ?* >> >> >> >> I trust the common sense will prevail and all of us will remain >> promoting >> >> Koha and not the fears of some people around here. >> >> >> >> By the way, my request for being listed as a Koha service provider >> >> (BestBook Buddies.com) is still not approved and I have resent the >> request >> >> today. >> >> >> >> Sudhir Gandotra >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Chris Cormack <chr...@catalyst.net.nz >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Just a quick note, unsolicited emails, or spam as it is commonly known >> >>> is indeed a crime in some jurisdictions. And in almost every one it is >> >>> against convention. >> >>> >> >>> I'm not going to respond to the rest of your email which reads as a >> >>> personal fight between you and other Indian Koha developers/companies. >> >>> Please leave this kind of email off the list in future. >> >>> >> >>> And if you plan to continue to send unsolicited emails to people then >> I >> >>> think the request to remove the listing should stand >> >>> >> >>> Chris >> >>> >> >>> On 9 August 2017 5:58:37 AM NZST, "Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate" < >> >>> sud...@kalculate.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Dear Jonathan Druart, >> >>>> >> >>>> I am rather surprised to note this mail. >> >>>> >> >>>> The only mail that I see from you to me was as below : >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------ >> >> >>>> >> >>>> Jonathan Druart <jonathan.dru...@bugs.koha-community.org> >> >>>> May 17 >> >>>> to koha >> >>>> >> >>>> Dear Sudhir Gandotra, >> >>>> >> >>>> You are receiving this email because you are listed as a paid support >> >>>> company on the Koha community website (https://koha-community.org/su >> >>>> pport/paid-support). >> >>>> >> >>>> We are updating the list of paid support companies for Koha on our >> >>>> community website. Please, after reading this email, either hit >> reply or >> >>>> complete the form mentioned below to confirm you are still an active >> >>>> support company. >> >>>> >> >>>> The next development cycle of Koha (17.11) is going to start before >> the >> >>>> month of May is out. >> >>>> Over the next 6 months we will be building the latest, even more >> awesome, >> >>>> release of Koha. We strongly believe that having everybody involved >> is >> >>>> fundamental to achieving this. >> >>>> >> >>>> We want to build a task force and for that, we need to know who can >> commit >> >>>> time and effort that we can count on, in order to estimate the goals >> we can >> >>>> reach. >> >>>> Even if you have never been involved in the Koha community but are >> using >> >>>> Koha, you can help us by committing just a few hours each month: >> >>>> library workers or support companies can contribute massively by >> providing >> >>>> feedback, testing patches, contributing to the documentation or by >> getting >> >>>> involved in other specific tasks. Even if you do not know how to >> code you >> >>>> can help shape the next release and improve Koha. >> >>>> If you want to help, or if you have specific requests for this >> release, >> >>>> please let us know by completing this form: >> >>>> >> >>>> https://framaforms.org/ready-to-help-the-koha-community-1493918217 >> < >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Just a couple of hours per month dedicated to the project is a huge >> help! >> >>>> >> >>>> Best regards, >> >>>> Jonathan Druart on behalf of the Koha community >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------ >> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> I have not replied to it, as I am usually been travelling >> extensively for >> >>>> the last 12 months, but, within our team, we are discussing as to >> how we >> >>>> can take this forward and start contributing to the Koha community in >> >>>> future, starting in next few months. >> >>>> >> >>>> *On the other hand, I would like to share the following with you :* >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> As duly acknowledged by the Koha community here, we are the entity >> (then >> >>>> known as Indserve Infotech Pvt. Ltd.) that introduced Koha in India >> with >> >>>> the first commercially done Koha implementation at Delhi Pubic >> Library, in >> >>>> 2007-08, for which I can show you the formal purchase order also. >> >>>> Its another story that our trainee-engineer, who was trained by us >> on this >> >>>> project, left us, cheated us, took away the clients we were >> negotiating and >> >>>> harmed our work seriously, went to another company and is active on >> Koha >> >>>> even now. >> >>>> We were forced to lie low for a while (due to illegal actions of a >> large >> >>>> MNC against us) and restarted our activities in a big way again in >> 2010, >> >>>> and after creating over 165 clients across 15 countries, have now >> taken >> >>>> Koha to new level, whereby we are offering the complete services >> free of >> >>>> cost and this is taking us places. >> >>>> >> >>>> The amount of publicity, growth and expansion that we have done with >> Koha >> >>>> is tremendous when you see the number of clients, the spread of these >> >>>> clients, and their support to us because of un-breaking services. >> >>>> >> >>>> I am aware that people like Vinod Mishra and some others are quiet >> jealous >> >>>> of us and now with these free services, they are, possibly, afraid of >> >>>> losing their business. And, because of this, they find all kinds of >> excuses >> >>>> of speaking against us with clients and here also on the list. >> >>>> >> >>>> I see no reason for deleting our name, because, caused by such >> negative >> >>>> people, it will only give bad name to the whole of community, a >> cause to >> >>>> which we have given our full support form the very beginning. And, >> >>>> moreover, we have done nothing against Koha. Rather, with the number >> of >> >>>> libraries to our credit, we are among the biggest providers of Koha >> >>>> services. >> >>>> >> >>>> To promote our services, we do send mails to libraries and in that >> process, >> >>>> the mail went to mycpl.org also. Owen Leonard felt bad about it, >> wrote to >> >>>> me, and I replied to him with my apologies, as our intentions have >> solely >> >>>> been to promote Koha. However, there is no law or convention that >> says that >> >>>> a Koha service provider cannot send promotional mails to libraries. >> Please >> >>>> help me understand this point better, if I am missing something. >> >>>> >> >>>> I will not speak against any of them, as, that is neither my style, >> nor am >> >>>> I person driven by fears. >> >>>> >> >>>> Being a Humanist, I am aware that I need to contribute to the good >> of this >> >>>> world, that has given me my life and everything else that I have and >> I am >> >>>> very happy contributing to Linux and Koha in my own way. >> >>>> *I have not done much, with my more than 400 Libraries to my credit, >> I >> >>>> wonder if this is negligible.* >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> And, for that "crime" (if that's how these people will prefer to >> term it), >> >>>> as its being labelled by some ignorant ones, if you think Koha >> community >> >>>> will be happier without me on the list, let's set the new standards. >> >>>> >> >>>> I am quiet aware that Koha is a community thing and fortunately not a >> >>>> personal property of anyone, and due to that fact alone, it is >> important, >> >>>> that, as a Community, we set the highest standards, which are not >> driven by >> >>>> the fears of a few ignorant ones, but by the bold-selfless actions >> of those >> >>>> who do for the society. >> >>>> >> >>>> I look forward to hearing from you on this. >> >>>> >> >>>> I assure you that, very soon, you will find me increasingly active >> on the >> >>>> list. >> >>>> >> >>>> By the way, my request of adding my new company "Best Book Buddies" >> to the >> >>>> list of service providers is pending for around a year. >> >>>> >> >>>> Sudhir Gandotra >> >>>> www.bestbookbuddies.com >> >>>> +91-9810120918 <+91%2098101%2020918> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Jonathan Druart < >> >>>> jonathan.dru...@bugs.koha-community.org> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> I have sent them several emails and they never answered. They are >> already >> >>>>> on my list of companies to remove from the list. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>> Jonathan >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 at 08:56 Owen Leonard <oleon...@myacpl.org> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Has anyone else received spam from "BestBookBuddies - an >> Initiative >> >>>>>> of: OpenLX Technologies Pvt. Ltd." ? They recently spammed me and >> >>>>>> everyone else on my library's contact page. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> If it were up to me they would be removed from the list of paid >> >>>>>> support providers, but I don't think the rules explicitly forbid >> >>>>>> sending spam. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- Owen >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Web Developer >> >>>>>> Athens County Public Libraries >> >>>>>> http://www.myacpl.org >> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org >> >>>>>> Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz >> >>>>>> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------------ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org >> >>>>> Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz >> >>>>> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *Kind Regards** with Season's Greetings,* >> >> *Sudhir Gandotra |* >> >> * C. E. O.* >> >> *OpenLX Technologies Pvt. Ltd.,* >> >> *Regd. 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