* David Whelchel ([email protected]) wrote:
Hello All,
Hi David Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you too
I have been carefully and regularly updating the koha-common package version on
Debian Wheezy 3.2.82-1 x86_64 (and its updates) since Koha version 3.14. Prior
to that I ran Koha on the old Windows version (that is now thankfully dead).
Now comes Version 16.11. Being an old hand but not being an active programmer,
and having years of successful upgrades and builds for my and other libraries I
thought, No Problem. Well not so!! I have tried a number of permutations to get
this version of Koha built without success.
1) To try a test run I set up an Ubuntu 14.04 LTS system as recommend in the
online documentation and selected the old stable option as I would need to
migrate my database (in MySQL of course). No joy – received “koha-common :
Depends: libgd-perl but it is not going to be installed” at the sudo apt-get
install koha-common step.
2) Well, so maybe I should use a fresh install the stable version and see if I
can still use MySQL – after all it is still supported in 14.04. But again
problems. More dependencies:
koha@koha314:~$ sudo apt-get install koha-common
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies
koha-common : Depends: libarchive-extract-perl but it is not installable
Depends: libgd-perl but it is not installable
Depends: libpath-tiny-perl but it is not installable
Depends: libsereal-decoder-perl but it is not installable
Depends: libsereal-encoder-perl but it is not installable
Depends: libwww-youtube-download-perl but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Ok So maybe Ubuntu changes too fast for this version of Koha to keep up with.
So I’ll try Debian with both 16.05 and 16.11. But again similar problems and
not success.
Where to now. Try the latest LTS versions of Ubuntu and Debian. Bumpkus – but
at least I am persistent.
So why this long ramble?
Interestingly enough I have 16.11 running on 3 servers from the packages (all on Debian 8). 2 Upgraded from 16.05, so I am not sure what you havedone differently.
For the record libgd-perl is packaged for debian Jessie (the latest stable version of Debian (it is also in testing and unstable too of course). https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libgd-perl So you must have done something non standard if you can not get itworking on debian 8. libgd-perl is in Ubuntu 14.04 too https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libgd-perl
So again, I am not sure what you did, maybe your sources are set up wrong?
First I believe that there need to be some effort in either making 16.11 work in the recommended Ubuntu and Debian releases as documented or put a real effort into updating the Koha code and dependent applications up to date so that a migration from 16.05 (or earlier versions) can be made seamlessly 50 16.11.x without our librarian non-programmers going crazy (and not all of them have tech support). Now put on your flame suits:
Here's a tip, if you ever think, oh I should start flaming ... thinkagain.
I have been actively working in a university central computing center for more than 35 years. The discussion recently about mapping Koha library sites and whether the information and whether Marshall’s map program is open source or not started me to doubt the long term stability of the Koha-common project. I even broke my personal rule and commented to the thread (my commends received silence). In order for this effort to succeed problems like the inability to use the package upgrade from previous versions to the newest version without problem must be a priority. Koha is a fabulous application and community. I hate to tell you Chris, but proprietary software seldom has these problems; they depend on the stability of their product for their pay checks. Flame off:
While I disagree entirely with your assertion that every proprietary software upgrade is smooth (a 2 second search of the web for things like windows vista would prove the falsehood of that) I do agree it should be as smooth as possible, and people are working on that. However I have done 2 successful upgrades, so I will need to try and recreate your particular set up to see if I can find what you did differently. Having said all that, I do not feel I deserve to be personally attacked like you have just done. I am a person with feelings who has spent 17 years working on Koha, and as far as I am aware this is the first timeyou have personally mentioned me. The community combined has put in 201 years worth of effort (according
to blackduck https://www.openhub.net/p/koha/estimated_cost) with over 300 people having contributed code and many more having contributingtime and effort in many other ways. Over 15,000 libraries (rough estimate) have benefitted from this work.
There are libraries who have been automated for the first time ever, using Koha. Universities in Nigeria who have been acreditted at higher levels, because they now have automated libraries. People in Vietnam making their livelihood from offering Koha support. The list goes on and on. There is no chance of Koha going away anytime soon, it (from Marshalls own words) is likely the most installed Library system in the world. Far too many people depend on it, and far too many of us will keep working on it, even when we are flamed.
Oh Yeah – if anyone has a solution to an in place upgrade to that the Koha database can be carried forward please let all of us who are experiencing problem know. But I am still expecting crickets.
Putting aside the offense, let's try and figure out why you can install the 16.11 koha-common package I think you need to figure out what is wrong with your apt sources, that you can't install koha-common, as it is working here. Can you paste what your sources are please?Naku noa
Na chris
Thanks --Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- David L. Whelchel 725 SE Derby Street Pullman, WA 99163 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://www.dlwa.com _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org [email protected] https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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