At 06:10 PM 12/13/2016 +0100, Mirko Tietgen wrote:
Hi.
it needs privacy information. What is anonymized, where and when?
Who has access to non-anonymised data (if anyone)?
I'm not a lawyer, but this might well fall foul of Canada's PIPEDA.
P.
It needs an imprint/statement of responsibility on the website. Who
is responsible for gathering and processing the data, and for
anonymizing it? Where is the data stored?
It needs a license. Saying it is open data does not make it open, I
can't find a license except for the hea code.
It needs actual data to download, or it is not open data but some
graphs someone somewhere renders with data they pile up secretly.
It needs information about why a gazillion sysprefs are gathered, be
that anonymized or not, and probably an option to turn that off.
Just a pile of German 2cents with basic questions nobody is going
to ask, but just not turn on the data collection. I'm asking it so
at some point I might be able to recommend turning it on, which so
far I don't, because I doubt it is compatible to German data privacy
laws.
-- Mirko
PS: Yes for the open vs proprietary part. I just don't think we are
there yet.
Chris Cormack schrieb am 13.12.2016
> I agree, we could make the installer/upgrade prompt them to fill them
in also.
>
> And then it's just building an interface, if we can get JSON from Hea
then that part is easy. It then needs no work from users except to fill
in the sysprefs.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 14 December 2016 5:31:01 AM NZDT, Jonathan Druart
<jonathan.dru...@bugs.koha-community.org> wrote:
>> The easiest way in my opinion would be to improve Hea, we already have
>> Koha
>> instances sending their data.
>> It is very easy for libraries to register as they just need to fill
>> some
>> sysprefs in.
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 at 17:04 Nathan Curulla <n...@bywatersolutions.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> I hear what you are all saying about this and agree that it would be
>>> better to roll our own, but here is the thing: Hea is not user
>> friendly at
>>> all and the Wiki is not a good marketing tool because it is not
>> pretty (no
>>> offense on either of these). If you really want to market Koha you
>> need to
>>> look at these things from the eyes of a non-developer, non-tech
>> oriented
>>> librarian. If you do that you will see that these two tools are not
>>> optimal, especially in comparison to something that larger companies
>> that
>>> Koha competes with are going to put out.
>>>
>>> It is good to hear that you want to clean things up and re-invent the
>>> wheel, but actually doing that in a reasonable amount of time in a
>>> competitive environment is another thing. If someone has a concrete
>>> proposal for an attractive, sortable, searchable, easy to submit to
>> option
>>> on the website for libraries to put information in than I think that
>> would
>>> be great and I will do everything to help that I can, but who is
>> going to
>>> do it and when? With products like Folio coming Koha needs to be
>> front and
>>> center in the open source library world and showing the world how
>> many
>>> people use it is a no brainer (and should be easy) in terms of ways
>> to do
>>> just that.
>>>
>>> So the options are that someone volunteers to create this interface
>>> (ByWater staff can help with this if given the access and permission,
>> but
>>> we arenât going to do it alone) with a completion target of end of
>> Feb.
>>> 2017, or we link out to a third party site that already has the
>> content. If
>>> we donât hear from anyone about the former we are going to go with
>> the
>>> latter. We need to move on this kind of stuff soon or Koha will be
>> left in
>>> the dust in the coming emergence of open source in the library world.
>> We
>>> need to become more accessible to those who donât code, otherwise we
>> are
>>> playing into the misconception that open source is for developers
>> only.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> -Nate
>>>
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