As a total outsider, I did have a wry smile about a group calling itself North American insisting its meeting venue be within the US. But I should let the Mexicans and Canadians speak for themselves, of course. In general, any forum that facilitates the coming together of Koha users to share experience and ideas is to be encouraged. I'd guess that's the context of Brooke's points about fees and August - just making it as easy as possible for folks to join in.
Congratulations on your initiative and best wishes for future gatherings.
Bob


On 20/11/15 08:40, glaws wrote:
Brooke:

A. Inclusiveness

So are you saying that there can only be one worldwide Koha group, and
that there cannot be national or regional level Koha groups and
corresponding meetings?

Do you presume that anyone from outside North America would be unwelcome
at a North America/United States meeting?

Would it be appropriate for the NA/USA group to openly solicit
world-wide attendance, and possibly seem to be competing with World KohaCon?

There may be topics of interest only to US organizations, like eRate,
LSTA grants and US laws, like privacy legislation, that may be important
and need to be discussed but which may be avoided in an effort to be
inclusive of other countries attendees if those were many.

Concession: there is sometimes, and possibly in this case, the tendency
to equate North America (23 countries per Wikipedia) with the United
States. That is more a careless, linguistic peccadillo, I suggest, than
a felony warranting a call-to-arms.

B. Time of Meeting

I don't think meeting in a particular month carries the same weight of
concern as your first point about inclusiveness, or even your last about
attendance fees.

C. Attendance Fees

Libraries, few in the US rich, don't always have good conference rooms,
especially if there are conference break-out sessions. That may mean
renting some hotel meeting room space for $1,000 a day. If it requires a
$20 charge per person to get some good facilities I think that's reasonable.

I have always, albeit typically privately, supported the idea of a
reasonable attendance fee. I greatly appreciate it when a hosting
organization provides coffee, maybe juice, and pastries for breakfast so
that I don't have to run all over a hotel in the morning trying to find
the $5 coffee and $4 donuts, being late for the inaugural address, and
spilling now-cold coffee all over the nice lady in the row in front of
me as I say "excuse-me, excuse-me" as I trip over people trying to get
to the only open seat in the middle of the row in the middle of the
room. Having coffee and donuts provided at the event is worth some coin
to me and something more to the ex-nice lady soaked in cold vanilla
hazelnut coffee which clashes terribly with her /parfum du jour/.



Greg

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On 11/19/2015 02:19 PM, BWS Johnson wrote:
Salvete!


The Koha North America User’s Group would like to invite agencies and
libraries located within the United States to host its third annual meeting
held in early August, 2016. This meeting offers participants two days of
instructional sessions and presentations, followed by a two day hackfest.
     At risk of beating a dead horse, I am once again disappointed that this body has 
taken up the mantle of "North America". There are plenty of Libraries, 
Organisations, and Agencies within North America that do not fit your group's stringent 
United States centric viewpoint. I am also continually saddened that this body will only 
consider meeting in early August. It is further too bad that you all charge fees for your 
meeting. The three of these problems in combination send a strong repeated message that 
inclusivity is not an aim of your organisation, whether that be a valid conclusion to 
draw or no. I do so hope that at some point in future, this group might reconsider any or 
all of those matters.


Cheers,
Brooke
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