That's a very encouraging and affirmative recommendation. Thank you Elaine.
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Elaine Bradtke <e...@efdss.org> wrote: > Our system is run in the cloud. We felt this was more secure/reliable than > running it from our internal server. We recently shifted from one virtual > machine to another, including a change in the version of Linux we run. Of > all the online services we have, Koha was the easiest one to move, and had > the fewest problems with the changes. > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Jesse Lambertson <jlambert...@sqcc.org> > wrote: > >> Thank you mark. >> >> We already do have a good plan for back-up. But with these other issues, >> your points are valid and jive with some other conversations I am having >> as >> we get ready to set this up (soonish). >> >> I will have to look at Brooke's other point about carefully picking the >> (external) hosting environment - one that gives me command-line access to >> update everything as needed. >> The idea in this thread here seems to be that hosting elsewhere means that >> it will not be as easy for me to update. But I have to imagine there is >> some host out there that has everything partitioned in a way so that I can >> manipulate my own data at will (maybe that is still just a dream). >> >> I will dig into that search next. >> >> Thank you everyone. >> >> Jesse >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Mark Tompsett <mtomp...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Greetings, >> > >> > On 10 December 2014 7:06:37 am NZDT, BWS Johnson < >> > abesottedphoe...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > [SNIP] >> > >> >> The only difference I can spot might actually weigh as a positive in >> >> favour of cloud based service. When you have a physical server and >> >> suffer a local catastrophe, such as an earthquake, fire, sinkhole, et >> >> cetera, there goes your data. >> >> >> > >> > Actually another cost consideration is the hardware costs vs. hosting >> > costs. Hardware dies over time and needs to be replaced. Budgets get >> cut, >> > and a monthly hosting cost is less likely to be axed compared to a new >> > server cost ever 4-5 years. So, in some sense, I think hosting >> externally >> > and not on your own local hardware is better. >> > >> > And comparing costs, you may be able to find hosting that works well >> for a >> > cost that when amortized over 4-5 years is actually cheaper. That is, >> > $20/month (let's say) * 12 months * 4 years = $960 for 4 years. This is >> > comparable to some cheaper machines which perfectly suffice, but I know >> I >> > prefer to drool over the $2500+ machines. :) >> > >> > Sadly, you aren't likely to be continually upgrading components. After 4 >> > years, a locally owned piece of hardware will have dropped from a middle >> > class machine to low end machine, while the hosted environment may have >> > progressed, because of hosting provider upgrades. :) >> > >> > And, you aren't having to do your own backups, if you hosting on the >> > cloud. If you have locally hosted machine, you need to figure out how to >> > back up elsewhere. A good backup plan has on-site same drive, on-site >> > different drive, and off-site backups. A hosting provider tends to have >> > these in place. Do you want the hassle of having that yourself? This is >> > related to the point that BWS Johnson made. >> > >> > And what if your local machine dies? Sure you have a backup, but you >> > actually have to spend the day rushing around buying a new server. With >> > hosting, hardware failures like that are not your worry. No budget >> > stresses, because you don't have the cash to go buy it now, and most >> > service level agreements give you less than a hour downtime per year. >> > >> > GPML, >> > Mark Tompsett >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Jesse A Lambertson >> Librarian >> Sultan Qaboos Cultural Center >> 1100 16th St, NW >> Washington, DC 20036 >> _______________________________________________ >> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org >> Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz >> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >> > > > > -- > Elaine Bradtke > Data Wrangler > VWML > English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org > Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY > Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance > and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, > send an e-mail first. I work off site) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Registered Company No. 297142 > Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" > --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52) > -- Jesse A Lambertson Librarian Sultan Qaboos Cultural Center 1100 16th St, NW Washington, DC 20036 _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
