I opt for keeping the release dates as-is. There will be no date that suits 
everyone.

A hackfest in March allows you to sign off on all stuff that gets in the queues 
after say December, and could reach .05.

New devs from the hackfest should not be pushed hastily in the .05 but have all 
chance to be pushed in July/August, and tested before the .11.

Just my idea.

Marcel

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Van: Koha-devel <koha-devel-boun...@lists.koha-community.org> namens Tomas 
Cohen Arazi <tomasco...@gmail.com>
Verzonden: donderdag 1 juni 2023 17:51
Aan: Philippe Blouin <philippe.blo...@inlibro.com>
CC: koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org>
Onderwerp: Re: [Koha-devel] A case against our release dates

My personal feeling is we should have a release right before the hackfest. So 
the hackfest sets the path for the next cycle. That could mean moving the 
hackfest a couple a bit later too

Add for the second part of the year, I'm not sure yet. I just have the 
perception everyone is out in the months we are expected to do the bigger 
changes, and we end up doing them close to the release date.

El jue, 1 jun 2023 12:46, Philippe Blouin 
<philippe.blo...@inlibro.com<mailto:philippe.blo...@inlibro.com>> escribió:

Of course I'm coming with my northern hemisphere perspective, and have no horse 
in the race really as being far from RM, but I always thought those dates were 
the best available.

Seems earlier (04, april) makes it closer to the hackfest you referred.  Later 
makes it closer to summer holidays.

Were you considering breaking the equal split in time, having a small and a big 
release each year?  November for the big, and march for the small, the hackfest 
starting the next cycle ?  Thinking outside the box...


Philippe Blouin,
Directeur de la technologie

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On 2023-06-01 07:35, Tomas Cohen Arazi wrote:
Hi all. Having served as Release Manager for the project a couple times, I'd 
like to ask y'all to think about the dates we've chosen and have stuck to the 
last few years for our releases.

I know they are somehow aligned with our regular yearly meetings, and one each 
semester. But my experience says:

- We all want to implement things we discuss in the Hackfest, but the release 
is too close. So we either push too late in the cycle, or need to cool down our 
brains/ideas for 'after the release in two months'.
- The other scenario, which I suffered a lot recently (and will soon) is summer 
holidays in the northern hemisphere: you're all out when we should be pushing 
the riskier things to have enough time to fix things, and we end up rushing 
things... on the last third of the cycle.

I don't have a proposal right now, but wanted to say my perception is the dates 
are not ideal as-is. And hear back from you all.

Cheers!

--
Tomás Cohen Arazi
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