Hi Jonathan,

I'd be very happy if you could wrote something on the wiki, I'm a little bit confused by all those cache...

Le 07/12/2018 à 16:36, Jonathan Druart a écrit :
I talked with Ere on IRC, but prefer to let a note here as well.

Enabling Cache::Memory if Plack is not running will not help as we
have the L1 (in memory) cache, which is used in any cases (and flushed
under Plack before a request is made).

I do not know how is our caching system understood by the team. I can
try and write something on the wiki if it can help. Hint: there is no
black magic :)

Cheers,
Jonathan

Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 04:55, Ere Maijala <ere.maij...@helsinki.fi> a écrit :
I'm a bit hesitant on this. I understand running without a cache makes
things like tests easier, but Cache::Memory is actually a pretty useful
fallback. There's a lot of code in Koha that does redundant fetches of
e.g. framework data, and without caching I'm afraid it will slow down
significantly. Cache::Memory is very handy when developing stuff to
speed up execution of e.g. batch utilities when you don't want to mess
with constantly flushing Memcached.

I would like to propose another approach for considerarion: disable
Cache::Memory only if running under Plack.

--Ere

David Cook kirjoitti 7.12.2018 klo 1.52:
I’ve noticed some caching issues but haven’t had time to investigate too
deeply. I wonder if this relates to what I’ve encountered.



In any case, +1!



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*Subject:* Re: [Koha-devel] Cache::Memory must be removed (21955)



Get rid of it!



+1



El mié., 5 dic. 2018 a las 16:20, Jonathan Druart
(<jonathan.dru...@bugs.koha-community.org
<mailto:jonathan.dru...@bugs.koha-community.org>>) escribió:

     Hi devs,

     I am still recovering from my holidays and I think I caught a quite
     big fish.

     After an interesting track game I will explain why I am suggesting to
     remove Cache::Memory that is currently used as fallback for the L2
     cache.

     What I tried to fix:
     Jenkins is complaining about selenium tests (regressions.t) failing on
     18.05, it is a succession of events and bugs that were not linked at
     first glance.

     Here are the different steps I went though:
     - On bug 21426 we noticed that USE_MEMCACHED was not taken into
     account. If set to "no" the default memcached config was defined in
     the koha-config.xml file anyway
     - A new regression selenium test was added on bug 21777 to catch the
     presence of an audio alert on the circulation page
     - Investigating the failing tests I noticed that koha-testing-docker
     was not setting the memcached config on the 18.05 branches (I guess
     the image has not been rebuilt yet)
     search_utf8.t output "Warning: script running in daemon mode, without
     recommended caching system (memcached)."
     - I also find that [% Koha.Preference('AudioAlerts') %] did not return
     the value set by the tests, but the value that the DB has before the
     tests were launched
     => It is a cache issue!
     - ...but only when memcached is not set...
     - Reading Koha::Cache->new we can notice that Cache::Memory is used
     for the L2 cache when memcached is not defined in the config

     And so we have the problem: If a value is set in the cache by a Plack
     worker, it will not be available from another one, as the L2 cache is
     not shared (!)

     To recreate easily the problem you can:
     - remove the memcached config
     - edit intranet-bottom.inc and add
     ===[% Koha.Preference('AudioAlerts') %]===
     - restart plack
     - Modify the value of AudioAlerts (using the UI)
     - Reload the page (reload several times if the value is still correct,
     it will depend on which worker will serve the request)

     Solution:
     I am considering removing Cache::Memory unless somebody else has a
     better idea
     Bug 21955 - Cache::Memory should not be used as L2 cache

     Note that it should not affect a lot of people as everybody is
     supposed to have memcached configured and working correctly!

     Cheers,
     Jonathan
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