Le 10/05/2011 16:41, Nicole Engard a écrit : > Okay, developers I need some help both in understanding and in > documenting the above preferences. Right now CircControl and > HomeOrHoldingBranch have the same descriptions, but I doubt that they > do the same thing. > > I vaguely remember HomeOrHoldingBranch being deprecated in favor of > HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn ... but don't see a bug for that, and > obviously it didn't happen. > > Next, in the manual I say that HomeOrHoldingBranch has something to do > with IndependantBranches (is that true? if so how?) > > There are a series of bug reports on this issue: > http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=homeorholding&list_id=5333 > but I'm not sure what the final consensus is? How do I use these three > preferences? and How do I document them for librarians? > > > > Log from IRC Chat > > > [10:29] <nengard> need me some sys pref help > [10:29] <nengard> CircControl and HomeOrHoldingBranch have the same > descriptions ... > [10:29] <nengard> and then there is HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn > [10:29] <nengard> what does HomeOrHoldingBranch do? > [10:29] <nengard> and i the manual correct when I say it's linked to > IndependantBranches > [10:30] * wizzyrea has always been confused by that > [10:30] <wizzyrea> but I know that it has something to do with the > way the rules are applied for circulation, and what happens when books > are returned > [10:31] <nengard> that much is clear, paul_p was this a Biblibre addition? > [10:31] <nengard> all three have to do with circ rules and checking > in and out ... just not sure which does what > [10:32] <nengard> there is at least one bug to report here though ... > CircControl and HomeOrHoldingBranch have the same descriptions > [10:33] <nengard> they can't both do the same thing ... or if they do > then we don't need two prefs : > [10:33] <nengard> :) > [10:33] <jcamins> I think that one of them is supposed to be > eliminated, but wasn't yet. > [10:33] <wizzyrea> HomeOrHolding was going away in favor of CircControl > [10:33] <wizzyrea> but there's a bug on deprecating it > [10:34] <wizzyrea> and I believe there was objection > [10:34] * paul_p reading > [10:34] <paul_p> (hello USA !) > [10:34] <wizzyrea> > http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=homeorholding&list_id=5333 > [10:36] <paul_p> mmm... sorry, I won't be able to help you, it's not > clear for me too > [10:37] <nengard> wizzyrea, okay, that's confusing > [10:37] <nengard> gonna put this to the dev list I guess > [10:37] <wizzyrea> I didn't say you'd like the answer ;) > [10:38] * paul_p looking to french descriptions of those sysprefs to > see if it helps... > [10:39] <paul_p> same description too, it doesn't help...
follow up : (17:07:35) hdl: It is the system preference description which is not really good. (17:08:02) talljoy_ [[email protected]] a rejoint le salon. (17:08:27) hdl: circontrol set to the items branch. And then you would choose homebranch or holdingbranch (17:09:23) hdl: In your case the real rule followed is : the library the item was checked out from (17:10:00) nengard: hdl, i'm sorry i'm still very confused (17:11:44) hdl: nengard: in the case of Circcontrol, you have the choice between "3 tables" : issues (or C4::Context-userenv) borrowers, items. (17:11:53) hdl: It is that level of choice. (17:12:17) hdl: for CircControl (17:12:27) wizzyrea: so you can circ with rules based on issuing library, borrower's homebranch, or the item's home branch (17:12:33) wizzyrea: with CircControl (17:12:51) hdl: HomeOrHoldingBranch is to decide whether it is items' homebranch or items' holding branch (17:12:58) wizzyrea: so only items (17:13:06) hdl: i.e. the library rule where the item last was. (17:13:09) wizzyrea: and nothing to do with borrowers or logged in branch (17:13:17) hdl: No. (17:13:22) hdl: only items... (17:13:52) wizzyrea: oh, only the current location (17:14:35) wizzyrea: (holding branch) (17:14:56) hdl: holding branch is the library which latest had the book. (17:15:02) wizzyrea: right (17:15:15) wizzyrea: (where it is now) (17:15:57) hdl: well... where it is supposed to be now... The library which has it. (17:17:37) hdl: The inner behaviour for an item is different depending on the HomeOrHoldingBranch or PickupLibrary (17:17:55) hdl: PickupLibrary only impacts issuingrule. (17:18:38) hdl: when HomeOrHoldingBranch set to HoldingBranch, it changes the holdingbranch when a borrower returns a book to another library, not the homebranch. (17:19:27) hdl: Because in a network, it is important to keep track of the library who OWNS the item, and the library who HOLDS the item. (17:21:47) wizzyrea: the application of this is that you can have floating items, items that were checked out from their home branch, but returned at another branch (17:23:46) ***conan notices meeting will be at 23 hs today for him (17:23:46) wizzyrea: home or holding return decides whether, when an item is returned, it is held at the holding branch or force returned to the home branch (17:23:46) wizzyrea: I think (17:23:46) wizzyrea: that (17:23:46) wizzyrea: one is one that I've had to futz with lately (17:23:46) talljoy_ a quitté le salon wizzyrea wizzyrea_away (17:33:10) hdl: wizzyrea nengard does that make more sense now ? (17:33:45) wizzyrea: I think so? (17:33:49) wizzyrea: the basic idea I got (17:34:19) wizzyrea: CircControl = rules based on one of item homebranch, patron homebranch, or logged in user branch (17:34:43) wizzyrea: HomeOrHolding = rules based only on items (possibly to be deprecated _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
