Evan, Can you put together a bug report that summaries the problem? With all that is going on now, I think this could slip through the cracks and be forgotten if we don't document it on the tracker.
-Ian On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 00:19 Evan Shultz, <evan.shu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Mark, > > I agree that the dialog could be improved. And this entire part of KiCad, > in fact. But it's also a relatively minor part of KiCad and there are > likely more exciting areas in active development. > > Your question about the template sizes was answered in the previous > emails. The answer is that the ISO standard defines very explicit borders > that vary depending on the page size. The autoscaling in KiCad means the > worksheets don't match the standard unless a matching size and worksheet > are selected. > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 7:15 AM Mark Roszko <mark.ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> There are UX issues with just changing that dropdown. >> >> Currently it's quite literally page size. Not templates. >> Template is the separate entry labeled "Page layout description file". >> (Just noticed, it should probably display the default loaded template >> which may hint the user to make a change) >> >> If anything that "Page layout description file" should be renamed to >> "Page template" and made a wxComboBox which has entries populated from >> the template search path environment variable. >> The Browse function would still exist to override to a custom file >> which wxComboBox allows (arbitrary text entry on top of dropdown). >> >> >> On that note, why are there new separate A# templates instead of >> autoscaling ones like the original kicad ones? >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:32 AM Evan Shultz <evan.shu...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > My original request was misinterpreted or otherwise derailed and I'd >> like to refocus things back to my original question. >> > >> > It was: "Is there a path to get these worksheets added into KiCad so >> they appear along with the other options in the 'Size' pulldown menu in the >> Page Settings dialog in Eeschema?" >> > >> > Having the new worksheets somewhere in the install directory is nice >> but it's not very discoverable. Giving nice templates that match industry >> standard convention the same visibility as the existing worksheets would be >> the most salient way for KiCad users to take advantage of these new >> worksheets. In my opinion, anyway. >> > >> > So, is it possible to make that happen? If so, what is the process? As >> I said, I'm not very familiar with the code base and I couldn't find files >> for the existing worksheets in that dialog when I looked around; but if I >> can get a few pointers about what to do I would be happy to submit a PR. >> > >> > On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 2:51 PM Nick Østergaard <oe.n...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Summa sumarum, from a packaging point of view it is included as it is >> >> on other platforms. >> >> >> >> On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 at 23:42, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I downloaded and installed 5.1.5 on my windows box and it looked like >> >> > these worksheets were in the template folder. I didn't check the >> entire >> >> > list so maybe I got it wrong. >> >> > >> >> > On 12/1/19 5:34 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: >> >> > > The templates are packaged like everything else with cmake, so if >> it is >> >> > > not included it is a bug in the templates repo. >> >> > > >> >> > > On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 03:16, Ian McInerney < >> ian.s.mciner...@ieee.org >> >> > > <mailto:ian.s.mciner...@ieee.org>> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > They appear to be packaged in the update to Fedora, but I >> don't have >> >> > > a Windows install handy to test on to verify what I see there: >> >> > > >> >> > > /usr/share/kicad/demos/interf_u/pagelayout_logo.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A2_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004-compact_ASMEY1435-2014_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A2_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004-compact_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A2_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004_ASMEY1435-2014_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A2_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A3_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004-compact_ASMEY1435-2014_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A3_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004-compact_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A3_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004_ASMEY1435-2014_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A3_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A4-portrait_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004-compact_ASMEY1435-2014_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A4-portrait_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004-compact_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A4-portrait_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004_ASMEY1435-2014_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A4-portrait_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A4_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004-compact_ASMEY1435-2014_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A4_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004-compact_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A4_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004_ASMEY1435-2014_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> /usr/share/kicad/template/A4_ISO5457-1999_ISO7200-2004_EN.kicad_wks >> >> > > /usr/share/kicad/template/gost_landscape.kicad_wks >> >> > > /usr/share/kicad/template/gost_portrait.kicad_wks >> >> > > /usr/share/kicad/template/pagelayout_default.kicad_wks >> >> > > /usr/share/kicad/template/pagelayout_logo.kicad_wks >> >> > > >> >> > > -Ian >> >> > > >> >> > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 12:08 AM Evan Shultz < >> evan.shu...@gmail.com >> >> > > <mailto:evan.shu...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > In 5.1.5_2, on Windows, I don't see these new page >> layouts. So >> >> > > at least in Windows this wasn't packaged. I don't know >> about >> >> > > other OSes. >> >> > > >> >> > > Perhaps there's a way to make this more obvious so that >> when new >> >> > > page layouts are available all packagers are aware? The >> >> > > discussion above reads to me like the KiCad project has no >> >> > > control over this and my expectation would be that page >> layouts, >> >> > > templates, and other "extras" that are in the official >> repos >> >> > > would be included and consistent in all KiCad installs >> across >> >> > > all OSes. >> >> > > >> >> > > Nick, is packaging Windows your domain? Is there any way I >> could >> >> > > help to get them included in an updated 5.1.5 release or >> 5.1.6? >> >> > > I know the GitLab stuff is taking a lot of time from >> everybody >> >> > > but I don't want to let this wither away. >> >> > > >> >> > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:52 AM Evan Shultz >> >> > > <evan.shu...@gmail.com <mailto:evan.shu...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > Thanks Seth! It would be great to have more templates >> >> > > available for KiCad users. You can ping me for the >> review >> >> > > when you post the PR. >> >> > > >> >> > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 9:44 PM Seth Hillbrand >> >> > > <s...@kipro-pcb.com <mailto:s...@kipro-pcb.com>> >> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > On 2019-11-13 15:54, Evan Shultz wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > >> The contributor submitted ISO templates and the >> >> > >> librarians have access to those standards, thus >> the >> >> > >> review and merge could proceed. >> >> > > >> >> > > Fair enough >> >> > > >> >> > >> None of the librarians have access to the ASME >> >> > >> standards and thus we could not properly review >> and >> >> > >> vet them even if they were contributed. Should >> ASME >> >> > >> templates be contributed that can be reviewed, >> they >> >> > >> would be welcomed. >> >> > > >> >> > > OK, I can handle the ASME template submission. If >> you >> >> > > run into standards in the future that the >> >> > > librarians don't have access to, feel free to ping >> the >> >> > > dev list. We have a fair cross section of >> engineers who >> >> > > can help with reviews although we don't always >> follow >> >> > > the PRs at GitHub. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > -Seth >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > KiCad Services Corporation KiCad Services >> Corporation Logo >> >> > > Seth Hillbrand >> >> > > *Lead Developer* >> >> > > +1-530-302-5483 <tel:+12126039372> >> >> > > Davis, CA >> >> > > www.kipro-pcb.com <http://www.kipro-pcb.com/> >> >> > > i...@kipro-pcb.com <mailto:i...@kipro-pcb.com> >> >> > > https://twitter.com/KiProEDA >> >> > > <https://twitter.com/KiProEDA> >> >> > > https://www.linkedin.com/company/kicad >> >> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/kicad> >> >> > > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> >> > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> >> > > <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >> >> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> >> > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> >> > > <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >> >> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> >> > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> >> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark >> > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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