Yes, I have also heard that from my hard-core board design colleagues. No one uses auto-routers anymore, they instead use interactive routers that have gotten very good lately.
We should continue to push the KiCad interactive (PNS) router to add capabilities (multi-net routing, via array styles, automatic fan-out, automatic clean-up, automatic completion, etc). Then, a feature such as "auto-route the last bit of this track because the user nudged the component over slightly or rotated it 90 degrees" sort of come for free. -Jon On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com> wrote: > I was thinking one level of abstraction higher where I just input my > design requirements and it spits out a schematic, full simulation to > match the design requirements, and a completed board layout. That would > make my job a *lot* easier. ;) > > All kidding aside, I was told by a very highly skilled board designer > not to waste our time with auto-routers because no one actually uses > them except for the simplest designs with lots of free board space and > few or no routing restrictions. This is someone who uses Altium in his > day job and has laid out far more boards than I have. I'm guessing > auto-routers appeal to hobbyists rather than professionals. I've never > seen an auto-router come any where close to how I would route a board so > I never use them. There are far more useful features to add to KiCad > than auto-routing. If we ever get to the point we are sitting around > twiddling our thumbs, then we should work on an auto-router. > > On 3/5/2018 12:16 PM, Jon Evans wrote: > > Actually the second point in that post is a gem (rerouting of tracks > > when you move a component) It is a feature of some super-high end > > packages (Xpedition, Allegro I think) but missing from lots of paid > > tools (Altium, Zuken, etc). > > > > It's on my list of things I want to add to KiCad at some point (if > > someone else doesn't get to it first), but it's also one of the most > > complex problems to solve on that list... > > > > -Jon > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski > > <tomasz.wlostow...@cern.ch <mailto:tomasz.wlostow...@cern.ch>> wrote: > > > > Ladies and gentlemen, there's a lot of work for us ahead! > > > > https://www.reddit.com/r/AskElectronics/comments/ > 815fz2/what_eda_is_really_the_best_out_there_for_macos/ > > <https://www.reddit.com/r/AskElectronics/comments/ > 815fz2/what_eda_is_really_the_best_out_there_for_macos/> > > > > Cheers, > > Tom > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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